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Some Stupid Asshole Invented A Taser Shotgun
öde:
When you use a gun you detach yourself from the person, dehumanise them like you said. It's not only disgusting, removing someone's humanity before ending their life, it's cold, calculated murder. If I beat the crap out of an attacker, it would most likely be an involuntary reaction and I don't think I'd manage to beat them to death. Someone else can probably answer the question better than me though.
--- Quote from: Something Witty on 17 Feb 2008, 08:58 ---Given the choice of ways to die, I'd rather be shot.
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Why do you think your preference matters, if we're dehumanising our targets?
Alex C:
Someone who has dehumanized other people may be more likely to shoot someone, but in that case the gun is a symptom, not the cause. My grandfather and his brother were both in WWII and have killed people. Neither hand to hand fighting (which my great uncle was a part of) nor shooting someone is in any way pleasant, and coping with either isn't easy even when you've already gone in with the mindset that killing in the particular situation is justified. Again, guns can be representative of a person's intentions, but saying guns themselves are dehumanizing is ascribing them too much power. We've had propaganda doing that job for millennia now.
Slick:
--- Quote from: Something Witty on 17 Feb 2008, 08:58 ---Just what exactly is the difference
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Really, there is no difference with the net result. However, with a gun, it is easier to make a snap decision and kill than it is without. If I'm beating on an assailant, and knock him out, well, that's one life saved. If someone comes at you and gets shot, they're dead.
I guess this just comes back to varying levels of regard for the lives of others.
--- Quote from: Whipstitch on 17 Feb 2008, 10:13 ---Again, guns can be representative of a person's intentions, but saying guns themselves are dehumanizing is ascribing them too much power. We've had propaganda doing that job for millennia now.
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Pardon, milennia?
Alex C:
A millennium= roughly thousand years. We've been declaring eachother heretics, savages and animals worthy of being put to the sword for one reason or another for at least all of recorded history, so I'd say dehumanizing proganda and saying it's OK to kill people because we're better than them for some reason has been in vogue for quite some time now.
öde:
I didn't mean to say that guns dehumanise people, but they do detach you from what you're doing somewhat, I think.
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