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Some Stupid Asshole Invented A Taser Shotgun
Nodaisho:
I think the idea is actually more along the lines of lowest-common-denominator thinking. Like how a lot of police forces use Glocks because there is no safety other than one that is de-activated while pulling the trigger. Which, incidentally, can get set off if you get a shirt tail or something stuck in the trigger guard. And how some lockable doors will unlock when the knob is turned from the inside, in case someone is unable to remember how to turn a fucking lock. I have actually seen some of those that will unlock from both sides with the knob turn, which makes me wonder: What is the point?
I don't find it all that worrying, though I do agree that tasers encourage more casual violence, as hitting someone in the head with a nightstick makes the violence and damage somewhat more immediate and visible. I think the idea behind the taser shotgun was that people were getting killed by beanbag rounds, which can end up going like frizbees, and while you are supposed to shoot at parts where there are no vitals, police marksmanship isn't outstanding in any situation, much less where people might fight back, and they are likely to forget that, or think it doesn't really matter.
Slick:
--- Quote from: dennis on 12 Feb 2008, 17:09 ---In the shell is a complete Taser, battery, probes, wires and all. Basically, the Taser shotgun shoots an entire, tiny Taser at you instead of just the probes.
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This is why I thought it was a joke! That's got to be, like, incredibly ridiculously expensive, hasn't it?
I see the 'better than beanbags/rubbers' argument, but I'd really like to know the effects of a headshot. That is really the main weakness of rubber bullets; that they can kill with a good knock on the noggin. If these would be so kind as to bounce off of your scalp with just a scratch, I'd be a little more inclined to not call them absurd.
Nodaisho:
How much do they weigh, and how fast do they go? Concussive force is the problem with beanbags and rubber bullets.
David_Dovey:
--- Quote from: tommydski on 12 Feb 2008, 13:38 ---I figure the dude in question decided that a smaller Taser just didn't make his dick feel big enough.
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Alex C:
--- Quote from: dennis on 12 Feb 2008, 17:09 ---The shotgun is just the delivery system. It's not fundamentally different from regular Tasers. In the shell is a complete Taser, battery, probes, wires and all. Basically, the Taser shotgun shoots an entire, tiny Taser at you instead of just the probes. The advantage is a slightly longer range and no wires. It comes out of a shotgun because they need a big barrel. Also, I guess it's pretty damn intimidating. They already have special rubber slugs and beanbag shells for shotguns.
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Quoted for truth. I'm betting there's actually two big reasons for why it's a shotgun: 1st reason: I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that the real goal isn't so much a taser shotgun so much as it is a semi-automatic taser with decent range for riot control purposes. 2nd reason: Like Dennis said, shotguns have a big bore. They're great for less-lethal rounds because they're chambered for bulky, heavy ammunition but actually fire at relatively low velocities, making them perfect for a high volume but lightweight round that's designed to travel too slow to kill anyone but still travel a decent distance. I'm sure if they had the ability to make a semi-automatic pistol effective taser they'd be thrilled, apply for a patent and start making money hats, but in the meantime the shotgun would be the logical choice.
That said, I think tasers are kind of stupid. I'm generally of the opinion that if you're not willing to kill someone over something then the situation probably is not that big of a deal to begin with.
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