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Some Stupid Asshole Invented A Taser Shotgun

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Slick:

--- Quote from: Whipstitch on 12 Feb 2008, 19:49 ---I'm generally of the opinion that if you're not willing to kill someone over something then the situation probably is not that big of a deal to begin with.

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See, what bothers me about this statement is not the sentiment that there is no need for non-lethal force, but what it might imply about your willingness to kill.
If you are mugging me for the fifteen dollars and two bus tokens I have in my pocket, well, I'll be mighty pissed but I wouldn't kill you over it.
Boggle, however, is a very big deal to me.

onewheelwizzard:

--- Quote from: Whipstitch on 12 Feb 2008, 19:49 ---
--- Quote from: dennis on 12 Feb 2008, 17:09 ---The shotgun is just the delivery system. It's not fundamentally different from regular Tasers. In the shell is a complete Taser, battery, probes, wires and all. Basically, the Taser shotgun shoots an entire, tiny Taser at you instead of just the probes. The advantage is a slightly longer range and no wires. It comes out of a shotgun because they need a big barrel. Also, I guess it's pretty damn intimidating. They already have special rubber slugs and beanbag shells for shotguns.

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Quoted for truth. I'm betting there's actually two big reasons for why it's a shotgun: 1st reason: I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that the real goal isn't so much a taser shotgun so much as it is a semi-automatic taser with decent range for riot control purposes. 2nd reason: Like Dennis said, shotguns have a big bore. They're great for less-lethal rounds because they're chambered for bulky, heavy ammunition but actually fire at relatively low velocities, making them perfect for a high volume but lightweight round that's designed to travel too slow to kill anyone but still travel a decent distance. I'm sure if they had the ability to make a semi-automatic pistol effective taser they'd be thrilled, apply for a patent and start making money hats, but in the meantime the shotgun would be the logical choice.

That said, I think tasers are kind of stupid. I'm generally of the opinion that if you're not willing to kill someone over something then the situation probably is not that big of a deal to begin with.

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See, this is what makes me worried that weapons like this will be the things we get shot with if shit goes completely down the tubes and we end up with a police state.  I can't think of any better way of capturing "enemies of the state" in some dystopic Brazil or V-for-Vendetta world than busting down the door and shooting them with one of these.  It plays into the psychological-breakdown scenario too well and it unnerves me slightly.

I probably should not have read that manual the CIA used for interrogator training.

Stryc9Fuego:
There's something wrong with me.

Everyone else is arguing the ethics of this weapon (a less-lethal weapon is STILL a weapon); namely the fact that while shooting a normal shotgun shell at someone is completely out of line (even if it is "just" rock salt), shooting a miniature tazer is in that EXTRA muddy section of ethics.

Me? I saw this and immediately thought of Bioshock's shotgun with lightning bullets. Meaning this shotgun would be great for attacking Big Daddys.

Boro_Bandito:
I actually thought the same thing at first, but I had the sense to pretend like I hadn't. Oh shit.

Scandanavian War Machine:
I, for one, could not be more excited.

what with this, and robots learning to lie, i might actually live to see the end of humanity as we know it.

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