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Some Stupid Asshole Invented A Taser Shotgun
Something Witty:
Guns are a pretty serious topic, full of emotions and media spin, they are loud, scary tools(Yes, a gun is a tool).
Saying that a gun is a tool designed solely for the purpose is like saying a hammer is a tool designed solely for the purpose of destroying things. An utter fallacy.
Guns, while capable of being used for killing people, were actually developed to make hunting easier, the same way a bow and arrow can be used to kill people while also used to make hunting easier. Do not confuse this as a denial of the fact that guns were designed to end the lives of living creatures, they were.
Let us continue with the gun = hammer line of thought:
Give a carpenter a hammer and he can build a house. Give someone else the exact same hammer, and he can knock the house down.
A gun, like a hammer, a knife, or a screwdriver is a tool designed by humans to make life easier for humans. Do not confuse the misuse of a tool with it's intended use.
In the hands of the right person, a gun is a tool that can save a human life. In the hands of the wrong person, a gun is a tool that can take a human life. Suggesting that several small bits of metal, plastic and grease are inherently dangerous or "bad" is ignorance in it's purest form. A gun is not a living thing. It cannot jump up of it's own accord and kill anything. The same way a hammer cannot drive a nail if a human doesn't swing it.
Am I suggesting that everyone should have a gun? No, that would be stupid. Some people should be kept very far away from guns. Should I not be allowed to own a gun because someone else would misuse one? No.
As for the "guns = cars," here's what I have to say to that:
A driver's license is permission to drive on public roads. At any age, you can walk into a car dealership and buy any car on any lot for your private use on your private property. At the age of 16(or 18, whatever it is where you live), you get a license to use said car on public roads after passing a written, then practical test. I think this is a fine system. If you want to let people buy guns for their private use on their private property, then give them a license to use them on public property at a set age after passing a written, then practical exam, have at it, I think it would be wonderful and wholly support the idea.
Post Script: If anyone wishes to have a civil, intelligent discussion in reference to guns and/or "gun control," feel free to send me a PM. I'm done here.
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: Something Witty on 14 Feb 2008, 00:23 ---Guns, while capable of being used for killing people, were actually developed to make hunting easier, the same way a bow and arrow can be used to kill people while also used to make hunting easier. Do not confuse this as a denial of the fact that guns were designed to end the lives of living creatures, they were.
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OH MY WHAT AN EFFICIENT LOOKING HUNTING WEAPON.
Johnny C:
Maybe they are hunting a Leviathan?
Ozy, while I appreciate the sentiment that intent behind use is key - see up there where I defend farmers using rifles as deterrents against feral animals and as a means of sustenance - arguing that "guns don't kill people, people kill people" sort of begs the question: if people kill people, why give 'em more weapons? I'm willing to tolerate gun ownership as the "right" a developed nation has determined its citizens possess, especially with stringent safety requirements, and I'm certainly in favour of using guns as tools rather than weapons - again, see my farmer example. Tying this back to the topic at hand, the Taser shotgun is not a tool. It is very much a weapon. I am not as concerned about its widespread uses as its potential for abuse, no matter how localized the situation.
öde:
Things you can do with a gun:
1) Shoot inanimate objects, either causing no harm (targets), damage (wheels of a car or something), or indirectly cause harm or death.
2) Intimidate someone.
3) Wound or kill living creatures.
Things you can do with a hammer:
1) Insert nails.
2) Remove nails.
3) Beat panels and stuff.
4) Join wood and other materials that need to be forced into place.
5) Work metal.
6) Positive destruction (chiseling, etc, destroying a house or a desk isn't a bad thing if it's decrepit).
7) Negative destruction (smash someone's car up, etc).
8) Intimidate someone.
9) Kill or maim a living creature.
There's probably lots of other things you can use hammers for and they're certainly not as easy to threaten or hurt people with (unless you have a war hammer I guess but they're big and extremely short-range).
negative creep:
--- Quote from: Nodaisho on 13 Feb 2008, 22:20 ---Guns aren't specifically made for killing
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
I'm really sick of this discussion, as I have it in meat life more than enough. Just wanted to point that one out.
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