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Berkeley and the Marines
Dissy:
CALLING ANY MODERATOR: LOCK THIS TOPIC
REPEAT:
CALLING ANY MODERATOR: LOCK THIS TOPIC
Sox:
This topic is doing fine. Why does it need to be locked? If you don't like it, don't read it. Several people have made some really great points and raised some very important questions. Locking the thread before a conclusion or rebuttal at this stage would be a dick move.
negative creep:
--- Quote from: jhocking on 19 Feb 2008, 15:47 ---No way man. The problem is that poor people don't want money.
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No, they're poor because they are lazy fucks.
Dissy:
From the Rules thread:
--- Quote ---Threads about religion & politics are undesireable in this forum because they are two topics that make Jeph angry/set off his depression. He has specifically asked us to kill these kinds of topics, especially if they are veering into argumentative or "DOOOOM!" modes.
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This has broken down into a political debate.
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 19 Feb 2008, 14:21 ---JazzyJoe, what economic class would you say you belonged to?
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I repeat the question. I want to know if you have ever actually been poor. I feel this is vitally important.
Also, you CAN blame the government for people having poor fiscal skills, because that is an aspect of education. Poor educations are one of the many things that sustain class divisions. I mean, look at me. I'm middle class, my parents are well-off, I went to private school, I got into a good university. I'm pretty much guaranteed a good job*. There's social factors as well; anyone find it interesting that there's not much mass produced media emphasising the benefits of saving and working hard, but lots suggesting that conspicuous consumption is the mark of wealth and social status? And then there's the criminal justice system of course. Crime is a big shitter. Put simply, if you're poor, and live in a shitty neighbourhood, and went to a crap school, you're more likely to commit crimes. You're going to steal because you're poor as shit and can't get a better job than working the counter at mcdonalds because you have no qualifications. You're going to take drugs because your life sucks (and here we could go into the inequalities and ridiculous harshness of drug laws, especially in America. Look up the penalties for possession of poor, often coloured peoples drugs like crack and meth, and then look up penalties for possession of rich peoples drugs like powder cocaine and vicodin). Ironically of course, once you have a criminal record, you're basically fucked for life. You get out of prison, you've got no money, you've got nowhere to live because you could never get on the property ladder**, you can't get a loan because you've got a criminal record, you can't get a decent job, your only viable solution, really, is to commit more crimes.
Society is wonderful.
*not actually true, as I'm doing a Fine Art BA.
**I don't think anyones yet bought up how utterly crucial this is.
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