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a pack of wolves:
Not even a corrupt government is necessary, at least not a legally corrupt one. You just need a government willing to let the status quo stand rather than upsetting the rich, powerful elements in society by attempting to redistribute the wealth they hoard.

Sox:
Which is, by my personal definition, corrupt.

calenlass:
You know, I would think the existence of all the "Get Out Of Debt" companies and federal and fiscal aid programs you can sign up for would set off more people's suspicions about our society being set up to put people in debt just so some other people can make money helping them out of it. I mean, I guess it is our excessively consumerist society and the vicious capitalisation by the debt management companies that are to blame, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still kind of a set-up.


Or it could all be a government conspiracy, too, I guess.



Edit: Instead of double posting I guess I will edit.

--- Quote from: JazzyJoe on 19 Feb 2008, 14:12 ---It's not a dick move, the simple fact that people are working themselves out of poverty or debt is proof against the poor being forced to stay poor.

--- End quote ---

You do realise that most people in America never actually work themselves out of debt entirely, right? There is a reason there are laws now state that upon a person's death, any debt they may have incurred during their lifetime that still exists will be repaid by the liquidation of the person's assets and estate, but if that is not sufficient to pay the debt, the rest of it disappears. Otherwise there would be so much debt being passed down from generation to generation that either no one would ever be free of it, and by this point we would probably all have been born into family debts we could never dream of paying.


I find myself very close to being in debt; I am about $2500 away from it, I would say. If it weren't for the Hope Scholarship that I get from the state government because of my grades, I'd already be in it. I am also faced with being a newcomer to a community with an excessive supply of part-time labour (other students) and very little demand for it, either because all the positions are taken or because of the current state of the economy. I have basically come up against a wall, and I am slowly draining my savings account because I actually can not get a job. If no one will hire you, there's simply very little you can actually do about it.

JazzyJoe:
Yeah I know alot of debts go unpaid. Still you can't blame the government for people that don't know dick about money... that is if we are talking on the same level.

jhocking:
No way man. The problem is that poor people don't want money.

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