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Some art I made
Teh Geek Lord:
Yeah, I do need to work on anatomy and get my perspectives better. Copying is something I do not do, I base some drawings off an image, but do not directly copy.
And can you offer assistance with my line quality, what should be worked on, cleaner, neater, sharper?
Spluff:
Are you kidding? Don't copy is one of the least useful pieces of advice ever. Master studies, life drawing, etc. are 'copying', and they are the most useful thing you can do.
tomselleck69:
reversal: are YOU the one who is kidding?
200 pts
Now that I have restored my honor, if you think I meant "avoid copying" to be interpreted as "don't ever do any life drawing or direct representational art," you are thinkin' wrong!
The reason I thought it might be relevant in the first place was because of the difference in quality between the cars and the Treasure Planet art, the cars being well-done both perspectively & proportionally, and the fan art lacking a little in those areas. Photo referencing is handy in that it gives you a good idea of 'the lay of the land', but relying on it too heavily will stunt your growth as an artist. To develop without the need for too many crutches is important. As for life drawing, never miss the opportunity to do some, whether it be from a model or just sitting around drawing people sitting around you. But anyway, I'll bet you already know this.
I'll write out some pointers on your line tomorrow (there is a lot to cover, ALL of it is difficult to phrase, and I am tired).
Teh Geek Lord:
sorry I misunderstood copying as tracing images and calling it art. I have been accused of that before.
Thanks for offering pointers, however.
I mad a visit to Barnes and Noble and grabbed myself an anatomy book, and will work on it as time allows. Another problem that plagues me is doing a rough drawing beforehand. I rarely do this. I'm too picky and when I sketch, I find myself nit-picking over the sketchy look. I usually draw lines to be permanent, take the Toyota truck, I started with the right side headlight, and worked my way out form there, shading and finishing the drawing and inch at a time. I've always done my art that way, I start at one spot and work my way out. That would probably explain my troubles with the human figure, and the Treasure Planet fan-art. I've been told to sketch drawings before hand, and I never seem to do that, not sure why its hard to put into words. The cars I can do, I understand angles and proportions as far as they go (line work, though needs help), but when I try to draw people and animals I never can do it. But just within the last four months or so I have gotten back into the art scene. I was out of it for two years and all the automotive drawings I have done were from before my two-year break in drawing. Then I come back a little rusty and try to draw people, and as it should be, I find trouble with that.
All advice I get I will use, I'm one who will try anything with art. Can't guarantee I will use it after I try it, it if does not jive with my then I won't use it (probably why sketching before hand is something I rarely do, it just doesn't jive with me). I'll begin with *gasp* sketching drawings form the anatomy book (skeletal sticks) to get body placement and angles and motion, and work my up form there. I'll post the results when I get a rough feeling for the human figure, but until I can get emotion and human figures down, my art is pointless. This one was done with a lot of time and attention to the detail, but still the human figure just isn't there (I sketched this on before hand)
No, its not a furry, just fan-art.
tomselleck69:
The silly rebuttal was to Spluff, not to you.
As for sketching beforehand, yeah it is difficult to get into if you haven't always worked like that, but believe me it is the way to go. Starting at one spot and working outwards felt natural to me for the longest time, but the drawbacks that come with that method ended up being too big to ignore. Fully creating one piece and then moving on to the next is asking for trouble with your proportions. One thing you might consider is inking the final product more often. It would take some of the pressure off of your pencil lines, so you'd be able to loosen them up a bit.
I'm making a lot of noise about proportions but honestly there aren't any glaring problems with them in the images you've posted. It'll be more relevant when you get into anatomy. One thing I would suggest is to spend some time working on the way you do hands.
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