Topic: Nine Inch Nails - Ghosts I-IV AKA: Trent's gone crazy and I love it. (Read 28028 times)

Halitosis · « **on:** 02 Mar 2008, 22:55 »

http://ghosts.nin.com/main/order_options

Trent Reznor released tonight a brand new 36 track, 110 minute instrumental album. For only $5, you can choose from a number of high quality downloads. This album came completely out of nowhere, with no announcement or even comment about a new album until it was made available tonight.

So far, I'm not even halfway through and I think this is easily Album of the Year material. What do you guys think?

Johnny C · « **Reply #1 on:** 02 Mar 2008, 23:00 »

Were it not for the "110 minute" part, I'd be sold. The fact that it's an instrumental record means that easily the worst part of any NIN release is already out of the equation.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #2 on:** 02 Mar 2008, 23:06 »

Me-Ow, Johnny.

Tom · « **Reply #3 on:** 02 Mar 2008, 23:09 »

This actually might be the 1st NIN album I'll find enjoyable.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #4 on:** 02 Mar 2008, 23:10 »

Listening now.

Aww, Trent wants to do post-rock! How cute!

Calaveth · « **Reply #5 on:** 02 Mar 2008, 23:28 »

I am...intrigued.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #6 on:** 02 Mar 2008, 23:29 »

It's actually not bad so far. At least he's ripping off good source material.

It's probably the first interesting thing he's done since the instrumental segements of The Fragile.

KvP · « **Reply #7 on:** 02 Mar 2008, 23:42 »

It's pretty okay. There are post-rockish parts but for the most part it seems like pretty much what you would expect from NIN instrumentals. It's sort of like The Fragile minus the awful lyrics and most of the bombast.

Also of note, this album is under Creative Commons License, so as long as you don't claim it as your own you can do pretty much anything with it, put it in movies, etc. If you pay $75 you can get the multitracks on DVD and do whatever you want with them. Cost seems steep though, especially considering the multitracks to Year Zero were around $10.

Töys · « **Reply #8 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 10:13 »

lulz, what is with some of the people here generalizing everything that is somewhat off the standard "song construction" as post-rock.

No really, Beethoven was post-rock.

AnonymousNoob · « **Reply #9 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 11:55 »

I think the site is borked.

Johnny C · « **Reply #10 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 15:09 »

Quote from: Töys on 03 Mar 2008, 10:13

No really, Beethoven was post-rock.

No way dude, proto-post-rock.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #11 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 15:53 »

Quote from: Töys on 03 Mar 2008, 10:13

lulz, what is with some of the people here generalizing everything that is somewhat off the standard "song construction" as post-rock.

What is with new posters being fucking idiots? LOLZORZ.

KvP · « **Reply #12 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 16:26 »

Quote from: AnonymousNoob on 03 Mar 2008, 11:55

I think the site is borked.

Has been since it went up. If you just want the first 9 tracks, they've got an official torrent up on assorted torrent sites, and by now other people have probably put up the full album as well. You can also pay for the full album download on Amazon, but the bitrates aren't uniform (though they don't seem to dip below 190)

StaedlerMars · « **Reply #13 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 16:34 »

using torrents it downloads in about 2 minutes (the first 9 tracks anyway)

Quote from: Kid van Pervert on 02 Mar 2008, 23:42

Also of note, this album is under Creative Commons License, so as long as you don't claim it as your own you can do pretty much anything with it, put it in movies, etc. If you pay $75 you can get the multitracks on DVD and do whatever you want with them. Cost seems steep though, especially considering the multitracks to Year Zero were around $10.

Whatever you make with them you have to put under Creative Commons too.

EDIT: I actually really like what I'm hearing.

KvP · « **Reply #14 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 16:54 »

Ah, right. That makes sense.

Sox · « **Reply #15 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 17:03 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 03 Mar 2008, 15:53

What is with new posters being fucking idiots? LOLZORZ.

I downloaded the free version, I wouldn't call this post-rock. At all. The guy has a point, just about everything instrumental and off-kilter has, at some point by at least one person, been called "post-rock". I have seen Uzeda referred to as "The Definitive Post-rock Band."

So, were you calling that particular person an idiot, or were you just referring to new people in general and highlighting the quote "for truth"? Because near as I can tell, there's a large number of idiots who've been here a while.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #16 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 17:07 »

The entire album isn't post-rock but it definitely has elements of that, to me. Hell, I even hear Iron and Wine on one song. Trent is pulling from a much wider range of styles than usual here.

Sox · « **Reply #17 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 17:16 »

I'm going to assume you have more than the 6 free downloaded tracks I have. Either that, or you're looking really hard. I think this sounds more repetitive an straightforward than any other album I've heard. Anybody else have that problem? Where the "9 track" download only had 6 songs? Am I doing it wrong?

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #18 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 17:21 »

I listened to the whole album streaming before the site crashed.

So, you know, if you've only heard 6 of 36 tracks maybe you shouldn't tell me what styles are or aren't on the album. Just sayin'.

Sox · « **Reply #19 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 17:25 »

Probably a good idea. But I'm telling you man, after this torrent is done, if I don't hear Iron and Wine anywhere, I shall be disappointed and it will be your fault.

Edit: Wait a second, when did I say that? I said I assumed that you had heard more of the album than I had. I should pay more attention to my own post and less to everybody elses. We both need to read my post more carefully.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #20 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 17:28 »

It is really hard to miss the Iron and Wine guitar line song.

Also there is a song that sounds a lot like Mono.

sean · « **Reply #21 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 18:42 »

Holy shit if you want the vinyl it costs $300 US. What the fuck? Anyway I'm downloading the first nine tracks at least.

And Jakie please tell me the Mono-esque track is in the first 9.

KvP · « **Reply #22 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 19:19 »

That's the signed vinyl. There's a 4-LP set hitting record stores in a few months.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #23 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 19:28 »

Quote from: Objects inside Clouds on 03 Mar 2008, 18:42

And Jakie please tell me the Mono-esque track is in the first 9.

It is indeed. Track 4 or 5 maybe? I forget.

Trillian · « **Reply #24 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 19:34 »

Jackie = mine. Objects inside clouds, it is advisable to start calling him something else. It would be unfortunate if I decided to strong arm a ho. *flex*

thebrosef · « **Reply #25 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 20:03 »

Well I am 4 tracks into this and I am liking it so far. Here's the thing though, I have almost never listened to NIN and I don't listen to a lot of post rock either. I listen to some, just not a lot. So maybe it isn't as bland to someone like me. I really like the noise in the background, but again I don't know how common that is in the post rock genre or in NIN songs. I am assuming that it is fairly common since it has been disregarded or at least found to be unremarkable so far.

De_El · « **Reply #26 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 20:29 »

Quote from: Trillian on 03 Mar 2008, 19:34

Jackie = mine. Objects inside clouds, it is advisable to start calling him something else. It would be unfortunate if I decided to strong arm a ho. *flex*

Now you're just being overly possessive. Jackie has said it's was okay to call him by his name, and he seemed to prefer it over being called zerodrone all the time.

[topic] So this whole deal makes me very sad, because I am a HUGE NIN guy, but of late my internet has been embarrassingly awful. So after trying a couple of times, the download just doesn't seem plausible. Like, I'd have to leave my computer on for days for it to finish. I bought the CDs on blind faith. Streaming: so far I'm very happy with it. But I want all of it!

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #27 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 20:37 »

[Gaying up the thread] I am Malorie's, though, so I don't blame her for being cutely possessive. [/Gaying up the thread]

[topic]If you like NIN at all, you will love this album. NIN was a big part of my childhood, around 1990-1992, and I enjoyed much of The Fragile. This album is the most interesting thing he has done, and pretty much makes up for the complete shit-fest that was Year Zero.

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #28 on:** 04 Mar 2008, 07:39 »

I've loved pretty much every NIN album (and I own them all too) and I go see them whenever I can afford to, as such, bittorrent here I come!

Thrillho · « **Reply #29 on:** 04 Mar 2008, 12:38 »

The instrumentals have always been the best part about NIN - and I say that as a fan of all of it. I'm getting the $10 download/double CD version.

jeph · « **Reply #30 on:** 04 Mar 2008, 13:02 »

This may be the first NIN album I listen to since the Downward Spiral all those years ago.

amok · « **Reply #31 on:** 04 Mar 2008, 14:31 »

Quote from: Johnny C on 02 Mar 2008, 23:00

The fact that it's an instrumental record means that easily the worst part of any NIN release is already out of the equation.

this should be in every thread/article/thing about nin ever

looking forward to hearing this, which isn't something I've been able to say and feel vindicated since pretty hate machine

Thrillho · « **Reply #32 on:** 05 Mar 2008, 11:15 »

Somethign just occurred to me.

Three albums across four years?

Just what the fuck is going on with Trent Reznor??

amok · « **Reply #33 on:** 05 Mar 2008, 12:20 »

apparently when you lay off the drugs 'doing stuff' becomes a viable option

I mean 2 of the 3 things sucked fairly hard and I haven't listened to the third yet but still, points for effort

celticgeek · « **Reply #34 on:** 05 Mar 2008, 12:28 »

Apparently their fans think that this is great.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080304/162842435.shtml

pentaen · « **Reply #35 on:** 05 Mar 2008, 12:49 »

i realllly like this. not only is it really good stand alone stuff, with trent's own personal affects seeping through every now and then, but it is preparing their fans for what is going to come out next. Now that trent has spent all this time experimenting and playing with different types of music, i think whatever ep/lp he releases after this will be mindblowing

Calaveth · « **Reply #36 on:** 05 Mar 2008, 14:28 »

Apparently in this new era, it's a viable business model to release your music for free, and sell it on vinyl for $300. Making $750,000 in just a couple of days must be considered a success by any standard. Not counting whatever people paid for other alternatives.

KvP · « **Reply #37 on:** 05 Mar 2008, 17:41 »

Nine Inch Nails haven't had a lot of sustained chart power since the early 90's. Every time a record of theirs is released, around 200,000 or so loyal fans go out and buy it and then it pretty much drops off the face of the Earth, commercially. Given that, this model is pretty smart. Might as well get as much out of the fans who will gladly pay anything and if they don't want to, well, they don't really have to.

SensoryOssuary · « **Reply #38 on:** 05 Mar 2008, 20:09 »

I hate NIN, but this is pretty awesome.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #39 on:** 05 Mar 2008, 20:21 »

Having had time to give it another full listen (thanks Malorie, love ya) there is a considerable amount of filler. It's not bad filler, just the usual "Trent discovered Aphex Twin" kind of stuff we've had since, well, Trent discovered Aphex Twin.

It's pretty damn good though. Album of the year, not even close, but a solid effort.

And, again, a million times better than Year Zero.

rynne · « **Reply #40 on:** 06 Mar 2008, 06:08 »

No mention yet that Adrian Belew is all over the album? The dude’s awesome.

As a long-time NIN fan, I think Ghosts is album that The Fragile should've been: all the sonic experimentation, none of the awful lyrics.

jeph · « **Reply #41 on:** 06 Mar 2008, 06:44 »

Pentaen's avatar makes a single nostalgic tear slide slowly down my cheek.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #42 on:** 06 Mar 2008, 08:20 »

Quote from: rynne on 06 Mar 2008, 06:08

No mention yet that Adrian Belew is all over the album?

Not a big deal since he has been working with Trent for 15 years or so now.

But yeah, he is awesome.

rynne · « **Reply #43 on:** 06 Mar 2008, 13:12 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 06 Mar 2008, 08:20

Quote from: rynne on 06 Mar 2008, 06:08
No mention yet that Adrian Belew is all over the album?

Not a big deal since he has been working with Trent for 15 years or so now.

But yeah, he is awesome.

Only on two songs before; he’s on 14 of the Ghosts tracks. I’d love to see what Reznor could do if he got Belew and Mike Garson on the same album.

Ocarina654 · « **Reply #44 on:** 06 Mar 2008, 14:03 »

Just started track 5 for Ghosts I, and I am liking what I've heard so far.

Also, not a fan of NIN, but I don't mind them occasionally.

Edit: Part IV is my favorite. All around great stuff, though.

Breakfast Cyborg · « **Reply #45 on:** 14 Mar 2008, 20:57 »

I know a lot of people are pretty critical of this release, but think about it.
36 tracks...for a minimum of 5 dollars. Just 5. Honestly, even if you're not that big of a NIN fan, or even if you don't like instrumentals, you shouldn't pass this up. I for one am getting the $10 edition.
Plus, there's the Youtube Ghosts video contest, which is an awesome way to involve the fans.

bonogirl68 · « **Reply #46 on:** 14 Mar 2008, 21:13 »

Quote from: Breakfast Cyborg on 14 Mar 2008, 20:57

I know a lot of people are pretty critical of this release, but think about it.
36 tracks...for a minimum of 5 dollars. Just 5. Honestly, even if you're not that big of a NIN fan, or even if you don't like instrumentals, you shouldn't pass this up. I for one am getting the $10 edition.
Plus, there's the Youtube Ghosts video contest, which is an awesome way to involve the fans.

Totally agree. I just got the $10 edition myself since I appreciate artwork.

Broken_Drum · « **Reply #47 on:** 22 Mar 2008, 13:15 »

Amazing album, I went all "fan-boy" and ordered the $300 edition. The design and packaging of it look amazing.

pentaen · « **Reply #48 on:** 23 Mar 2008, 02:16 »

please post pictures of the entire thing!

Broken_Drum · « **Reply #49 on:** 23 Mar 2008, 10:47 »

Quote from: pentaen on 23 Mar 2008, 02:16

please post pictures of the entire thing!

When it arrives I will do just that.

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