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Patrick:
Playstation 2 was the best deal for a DVD player for a good while too, if I remember right. Those Sony cats know their shit when it comes to marketing.

0bsessions:
Hence the "reckless early adopter" remark. Blu Ray is not a proven lasting technology. Yes, it beat out HD DVD, but that doesn't really amount to shit. I've been holding firm for about a year and a half now that neither one would replace DVD and I stand by that opinion. Blu Ray is simply not worth dropping $400 on right now and if you already own a PS3, there's very little worthwhile reason to buy a 360. All in all, there's really no reason to spend the $700+ to own both. Blu Ray's a nice tech and it looks great, but it's not such an improvement over DVD that it'll ever be any more relevant than laser discs were.

And Patrick, I assume you've not really been following video gaming news lately. Sony's marketing has been absolute shit lately. Most of their marketing amounts fo Wizard of Oz tactics where the numbers place them in a rather distant third place, worldwide, yet they keep trying to act like they're top dog (Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, folks). Blu Ray was an unnecessary addition considering the fact that DVD is still years away from being obsolete considering not even fifteen percent of all US households (The biggest current HD market) even have the capability to watch anything above standard definition DVD resolution. If they'd dropped the idea of Blu Ray and put the PS3 out within a month of the 360, they'd have a pretty commanding lead over Microsoft right now. Sony keeps trying to make claims about how they're in position to make a huge surge, but every time they gain some momentum, it falls to shit after a few weeks. In short: Sony's marketing division were geniuses with the PS2. It was a weak, poorly put together piece of junk, but it was expertly marketed. The PS3 is a well put together monstrosity with too much crap in it that's been absolutely abysmally marketed.

pilsner:
Funny, because the PS3 outsold the 360 and the DS in January U.S. sales.  You should definitely let the 269,000 January buyers know what a mistake they've made.  Maybe they can get a refund.

As for early adopter, you're not buying Blu-Ray, you're buying the PS3 with the added benefit that it plays the higher definition format now carried by Netflix, Blockbuster and Walmart.  And the PS3 launched in November 2006 so it's been out for ... a year and a half.  I don't know what definition of early adopter you're using, but in the technology industry I'm familiar with, after a year and a half you're starting to the think about the next generation of products.

0bsessions:

--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 13 Mar 2008, 07:47 ---every time they gain some momentum, it falls to shit after a few weeks.

--- End quote ---

February Charts

Yeah, Sony had a surge in January...and then dropped right back down to the bottom of the pack again in February, actually managing to sell less than half what the Playstation 2 (Whose last big new title isnow a full year old) sold. They're probably only going to do worse this month due to Smash Bros Brawl's release and the current doldrum of major releases for it. GTA IV might give a bit of a quick jump, but I figure that'll more likely affect the 360 as the prime market for that game (The US) has a higher install base of 360s (Over double the PS3 and actually still slightly ahead of the Wii). The next real big surge in PS3 sales won't be until June when MGS 4 comes out.

And don't kid yourself. Most people aren't buying PS3 for the games. There's yet to be a single AAA exclusive game for PS3 (Resistance's popularity only occured from being the only worthwhile PS3 game and Uncharted is essentially Tomb Raider without the breast physics). The Blu Ray is the prime selling point and Sony is NOT advertising it properly (If they really wanted to make a case, they'd advertise it as a Blu Ray player with gaming functionality, not a game console with Blu Ray functionality). And make no mistake, it's still early on for Blu Ray. A year and a half is not far into the life cycle of media. The only way it's not early is if it fails even sooner than I anticipate. I never said the PS3 was a bad machine, I said it was an abysmally marketed machine that's trying to do too much at once.

pilsner:
FFXIII.

Yeah that's right I said it.

Anyway, the discussion isn't about whether the PS3's marketing was screwed up, it was about your assertion that there was no reasonable basis to own both a PS3 and a 360.  And I'm saying that there is.  Not just to play Drake's Fortune, or Flow, or because you believe that Home is the next big thing, or because you know it's cheapest Blu-Ray player out there, but also because you need something to play Rock Band on after the 360 gives you the fourth read disc error in the same day and you threw it out the window.

Anyway, I'd prefer not to threadjack this into a console vs. console discussion.  Decadence!  I like caviar.  Seriously.  People in the know get the American Paddlefish caviar at 20$/ounce and eat it on blini with creme fraiche and chopped onion.  Your drink is the best vodka you can afford on the rocks or chilled and straight up -- I suggest imperia.  This stuff is pretty much indistinguishable from Osetra which is $50-100 per ounce and comes from the endangered Caspian sturgeon.  It's not something I do every day, more of a special occasions thing, but damn is it ever good.

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