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redglasscurls:
I'm very sorry for both you and your aunt Katie, the people involved should not have been driving while at that level of intoxication, and it was irresponsible with horrible consequences.
I'm just saying these people did not have a glass of wine at dinner and drive their wife home in time to get the babysitter back to her house on a school night. People should be intelligent enough to know their own limits, and if they are not, the people around them should take responsibility and keep the rest of the public safe. People who DO know their limits should be commended rather than treated like they're running around jabbing little children with AIDS needles.
calenlass:
Drinking wine or a beer or two with dinner is not the same thing as being intoxicated. The fats affect the way the alcohol is absorbed into your bloodstream, and the mere presence of something else in your stomach slows down that absorption. Drinking with a meal does not get you drunk, at least not in the same way, and most people who drink with food are not out to get drunk anyway.
dennis:
Yes. The operating word is "drunk". You can drink without becoming drunk.
Drunkeness is a state of impairment. Cannabis and alcohol are different drugs that act on the body in completely different ways. I think it is possible to be impaired on cannabis, but I also think it's possible to use cannabis and not become impaired.
I'm not so sure about blood alcohol thresholds for defining "drunk". There are people who can have a BAC above various legal limits and not be impaired, and people who can have one lower and be highly impaired.
On the other hand, I'm not so sure that giving patrol officer back discretion in judging DUI is a good idea, either.
Ozymandias:
--- Quote from: jhocking on 18 Mar 2008, 12:15 ---@rgc: While it is true that you're still fine to drive after having a drink at a dinner party, putting things in that way is too granular for such a dire issue. The unfortunate fact is that most people don't think in nuanced terms, only yes/no, so the important message to promulgate is that one shouldn't drink and drive.
Put another way, people who are still fine to drive deciding not to is not a problem, so in this issue it is much better to err on the side of caution in one's rhetoric.
--- End quote ---
This.
Also, what the fuck is wrong with the idea of putting other people's safety over your own desire to prove that you're okay to drive?
öde:
If you're going to be driving, what the fuck is wrong with water? If I ever learn to drive, I certainly won't be taking a 1 ton+ machine that can go fast enough to smash all the bones in a body and wrap itself around a tree if my reactions are slowed and senses are impared, even if it's only a little.
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