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The most hilarious thing I have ever read in relation to Joss Whedon
Ikrik:
--- Quote from: idiolect on 28 Mar 2008, 07:38 ---Also, guys, just for the record, I really hope you don't take this person to represent feminists in general. As far as I'm concerned, she only represents her own wacky self. :|
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Really? For me she represents a few feminists I know. I wish there was another word for femanazi....but that perfectly describes them. They hate men for the simple fact that they're men. They won't treat any male with respect because of the thousands of years of female repression. It's weird because ANY argument you get into with them turns immediately to the fact that they're women...which means they're right, and since I'm a dude I'm obviously just trying to repress them. She reminds me of a bunch of girls in my school everyone tries desperately to avoid talking to.
Narr:
There are feminists that aren't radical. They usually don't really bother to label themselves as feminists, however.
There ARE a lot of disturbing trends among the sexes. I don't think any educated person can deny it. The fact a man and a woman in the same job will have severe pay discrepancy, for example.
I don't deny the media's role in shaping people, either. For example, most girls I know that grew up and LOVE Disney cartoons and still have a strong love for Disney? They're all just... I don't know how to describe them other than "frivolous."
Surgoshan:
I've a good friend in med school, getting married in a month, a single mother before that, with a tattoo of Tinkerbell. Why? Because she grew up loving Peter Pan. The book because her grandmother read it to her, but also the Disney movie. I know her full name, but she was introduced to me as Tink and always will be. Frivolous she's not, though.
RobbieOC:
--- Quote from: roxie_vinyl on 27 Mar 2008, 16:27 ---Thats not just a female thing though... hollywood always casts attractive people; men as well as women. Why do you think they cast Nathan Fillion as Mal? *Girly licking of lips* Also, have you SEEN the guns on Alan Tudyk? The entire casting of Buffy is the same thing... Spike and Angel are both gorgeous. The whole casting "hot" females is a matter of opinion as well, who is to say who's hot?
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I wasn't trying to exclude males, it just wasn't part of my point. But you're right. Men can be objectified also.
And, I suppose hot is a matter of opinion, but I have a hard time believing there are a lot of people out there who wouldn't say these women aren't at least nice to look at. It's not a Joss thing, either. It's a Hollywood thing. Even when a character is supposed to be unattractive in movies, they often get attractive actors to play the part and just give them makeup or an unseemly mole or something.
Alex C:
It's self-reinforcing too. Part of the reason I never tried getting into acting or anything is because I suspect that as a 5'8" racial mutt I've got vaguely ethnic sidekick or small time character actor written all over me-- and that's if things go well. You need a lot of determination and a fair bit of luck and good looks to get steady work in that field and everyone knows it. It takes a special kind of determination to really stick with that profession if you're merely typical. ;)
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