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[BS]

So why am I typing this while humming "By The Sword" by Ryan's Hope?

It's MADNESS, dammit.

[Carlyism]

"I GUESS YOU GOT A BAD HABIT, AND IT AIN'T GOING AWAY (YEAH! YEAH!)"
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[ImRonBurgundy?]

Oh, I dunno.  The Ergs are great, and The Copyrights are pretty good.

[blanktom]

The older stuff by New Found Glory isn't so bad.

[a pack of wolves]

This thread put it in my head to go and listen to Tatako, Cheeky and Goddamnit by Alkaline Trio. I think I'm good enough friends with pop punk to let it borrow a small amount of money, or take it some lemsip if it's ill.

[valley_parade]

Yeah come on, The Ergs are the best thing going right now.

Aside from maybe Everybody Out!, but they're not really pop-punk.

[Sox]

I don't hate pop-punk. In fact, I spend a great deal of my younger youth listening to a lot of pop-punk. I also spent a great deal of my younger youth obsessively watching the television program "Playdays", but I'm not about to rush to the nearest television set and watch it. If I re-visited the same albums again today, I'd realise how terrible they actually were and I don't particularly want to ruin the fond memories I have of when bands like Dillinger 4 and the Lawrence Arms were the best thing in the world.

[valley_parade]

Lawrence Arms? WERE?

Sir I saw them last fall and they are STILL the best thing in the world.

[SeanBateman]

Pop punk is so fucking good I mean real talk lets not lie to ourselves here, seriously.

[Thrillho]

If you're referring to the modern pop-punk, Green Day, blink-182 and Offspring have all done some great songs in their time (and hell even bands like New Found Glory have some good tunes knocking around somewhere). Fuck the lack of credibility, they do good work, and particularly Green Day and blink have fucked about with the mold a little bit and come up with some interesting stuff. Green Day's weird little instrumentals and hardcore moments, and blink doing that entire album of bogus emo. Offspring on the other hand have hardly changed the template, but been consistently great for something like twenty years, so more power to them.

As for old school pop-punk like Buzzcocks... well, there's no shame there.

[imagist42]

Lola Ray? Is this thread about Lola Ray? If not, it should be.

[a pack of wolves]

If I re-visited the same albums again today, I'd realise how terrible they actually were and I don't particularly want to ruin the fond memories I have of when bands like Dillinger 4 and the Lawrence Arms were the best thing in the world.

You're very wrong, Widwestern Songs Of The Americas will always be brilliant. There's supposed to be a new album sometime this year too.

[ImRonBurgundy?]

Yeah, dude, I cannot brook these unwarranted knocks on Dillinger Four.

Cheeky

Ah, man, Cheeky is great!

[pinkpiche]

Aquabats will always have a very big piece of my heart.

[a pack of wolves]

Ah, man, Cheeky is great!

Choke On A Cheeseburger is just so excellent all the way through. And that riff at the start of Grow Fins, Turkey... damn. Anyone who's been sleeping on this one get yourselves over to www.quoteunquoterecords.com and sort it out.

This thread is seriously lacking in the Snuffy Smile love. You all know the Japanese rule at pop punk. Pear Of The West, Minority Blues Band, The Urchin, so many good bands on that label.

[will: wanton sex god]

Guys, there is pop punk that isn't mainstream.  Pop punk =/= (does not equal) al the terrible bands of the 90's (that i kind of have to admit i enjoyed.)

[valley_parade]

You all know the Japanese rule at pop punk.

Ken Yokoyama what?

[Patrick]

Yeah come on, The Ergs are the best thing going right now.

Man even I like them and I only have one song and an EP.

[sk8brder40]

Blink-182 is totally one of the best, if not the greatest pop-punk bands ever. Their immature humor and the simplistic power chords creating catchy music is just plain amazing.

[Kai]

Guys guys guys

Screeching weasel

[sk8brder40]

All Time Low is pretty cool

Have the same blink sense of humour

[ImRonBurgundy?]

YES:


NO:

[sk8brder40]

Your reason for a no is my reason for a yes. Hahahaha

[a pack of wolves]

Oh deary me no. Pop punk should not be about pretty boys with expensive hair who desperately try and replicate the sense of humour of a high schooler. It is most definitely about men and women who look like The Ergs and the same kind of idea of the teenager Beat Happening espoused. It should be a joyous middle finger at boredom and growing dull.

[idiolect]

"I GUESS YOU GOT A BAD HABIT, AND IT AIN'T GOING AWAY (YEAH! YEAH!)"
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Holy crap, suddenly I was 13 again, and was momentarily filled with that characteristic joy that accompanies sneaking out of your parents' house to skate and smoke pot (which was immediately followed with that equally characteristic crushing social awkwardness.  Oh, youth).

Man, whoever said that the teenage years were "the best years of your life" was so full of shit.  20something is so, so much better.  Yow.

[Patrick]

Pop punk should not be about pretty boys with expensive hair who desperately try and replicate the sense of humour of a high schooler.

It's how music goes. Something gets popular underground, and then it gets big enough to where MTV tries to glamourize it all. Then it starts to suck.

Look at Modest Mouse. They used to be AWESOME.

[KharBevNor]

The Ergs are pretty ugly.

[Thrillho]

Blink-182 is totally one of the best, if not the greatest pop-punk bands ever. Their immature humor and the simplistic power chords creating catchy music is just plain amazing.

I can't tell if you're joking or not.

If you're not, I love you. Not that I agree, I just love you.

[Spike216]

Because Ryan's Hope is amazing?


Ever heard of We Are The Union?

[sk8brder40]

Blink-182 is totally one of the best, if not the greatest pop-punk bands ever. Their immature humor and the simplistic power chords creating catchy music is just plain amazing.

I can't tell if you're joking or not.

If you're not, I love you. Not that I agree, I just love you.

I'm not joking, I absolutely love that band. Wish they'd get back together, but that's unlikely.

Haha if you don't agree then why would you love me for saying that?

[waterloosunset]

is poppunk those bands like busted? if it is, then it is some of the worst stuff i have ever heard. i remember when my sister started listenening to it...ugh...having to hear it all throughout the house

[Thrillho]

Mate, Busted give blink-182 give the Buzzcocks a bad name.

However, they did have one genuinely killer track, which was '3am.' Great tune.

Blink-182 is totally one of the best, if not the greatest pop-punk bands ever. Their immature humor and the simplistic power chords creating catchy music is just plain amazing.

I can't tell if you're joking or not.

If you're not, I love you. Not that I agree, I just love you.

I'm not joking, I absolutely love that band. Wish they'd get back together, but that's unlikely.

Haha if you don't agree then why would you love me for saying that?

Because I adore blink-182. Enema Of The State is one of my favourite albums, and I saw them in one of their last (possibly their last ever) UK/European gigs on the last tour. And contrary to every last damn bit of live footage I've seen of them, they were absolutely brilliant.

I also think they're at many times genuinely funny in their songs; it's sophomoric, but we were all that age once, dammit, and it's not like punk has been about maturity from day one. They also have a lot of songs about teenage love and stuff, like 'Going Away To College,' which soundtracked my youth. But alas, they're the kind of band that, as other threads if less so this one indicate, get a bad rap on a forum like this.

[sk8brder40]

Mate, Busted give blink-182 give the Buzzcocks a bad name.

However, they did have one genuinely killer track, which was '3am.' Great tune.

Blink-182 is totally one of the best, if not the greatest pop-punk bands ever. Their immature humor and the simplistic power chords creating catchy music is just plain amazing.

I can't tell if you're joking or not.

If you're not, I love you. Not that I agree, I just love you.

I'm not joking, I absolutely love that band. Wish they'd get back together, but that's unlikely.

Haha if you don't agree then why would you love me for saying that?

Because I adore blink-182. Enema Of The State is one of my favourite albums, and I saw them in one of their last (possibly their last ever) UK/European gigs on the last tour. And contrary to every last damn bit of live footage I've seen of them, they were absolutely brilliant.

I also think they're at many times genuinely funny in their songs; it's sophomoric, but we were all that age once, dammit, and it's not like punk has been about maturity from day one. They also have a lot of songs about teenage love and stuff, like 'Going Away To College,' which soundtracked my youth. But alas, they're the kind of band that, as other threads if less so this one indicate, get a bad rap on a forum like this.

I agree with you completely one hundred percent.
You are so lucky to have seen them live! I used to be obsessed in like 6th grade, grew out of it, and haven't started becoming insanely obsessed till now.

Enema and Dude Ranch= Awesomeness. the Mark Tom and Travis Show = funniest/best live cd ever.

[a pack of wolves]

This thread made me want to go back and listen to all the bands I used to really love in the '90s. Handily, there are official or fan myspaces for a lot of them now, and a few are surprisingly either reformed or never split up like I thought they had. An awful lot were on the great UK label Crackle!, which is probably best known for releasing This Shite Is Genius by Dillinger Four (note the special spelling). There was a lot more to them than that though. Hooten 3 Car and Broccoli were often very melancholy and had a great indie rock feel to a lot of their songs. Dagobah released what I still regard as one of the best pop punk 7"es of all time, The Garage Is Off Limits. It's chock full of teen angst and Star Wars metaphors. Grover might have been a bit wonky but you have to love any band that closed a 7" with the snot-nosed greatness of Breaking Up. Caustic Soda's Femalevolence 7" is another forgotten gem, Jawbreaker gone pop in Australia. I bet they released a J Church record too, since everybody's released at least one. There were some low points (Skimmer are still going apparently. I blame the Japanese), and they don't seem to release much anymore, but in it's heyday Crackle! was one of the best pop punk labels there have ever been.

And on an unrelated note, I still miss Fifth Hour Hero. Damn that band were amazing.

[BS]

Okay, I'm fired, I get it.

It's just until I got Apocalypse in Increments the whole genre never appealed to me. It's not BAD, but not my cup of tea.

[Patrick]

Because I adore Blink-182. Enema Of The State is one of my favourite albums

You too? Sweet, I don't have to be the first to say it.

[Thrillho]

You are so lucky to have seen them live!

Correction - I'm lucky to have seen live when I did. Before the tour for the untitled album, as a live band, they were HORRIBLE. Very funny, but horrible.

"You wanna hear a new song?

...you don't have a choice!"

[ImRonBurgundy?]

The Ergs are pretty ugly.

That's why I chose them specifically, to heighten the contrast.  Inner beauty vs. outer, and all that.

[The Viz]

Ever heard of We Are The Union?

Yeah...have to be in the right mood to listen to them though.  Their songs tend to sound the same (to the point where I'm unsure when a song has ended and the next has begun).  But they're alright, I'd see them live if they came around these parts.

[LucyStag]

I love Green Day. Not just "Dookie", which is the only album it is socially acceptable to admit to be quality. "Dookie" and "Insomniac" are especially majestic.

I love this band still because they were never the Clash, were never breaking new ground, they are just catchy as hell in a good and non annoying fashion. At least in my mind. Many disagree...some while holding sharp objects.

[valley_parade]

I'm listening to Chixdiggit - Pink Razors. This CD is greater than the pope. After the last track, they play the whole album again and have a directors commentary thing.

They're on Fat, right? I always think "man, I should check out some of the other bands on Fat", but rarely ever do. It's how I got into the Sainte Catherines, though.

[Thrillho]

Actually, I've been somewhat disillusioned with Green Day after seeing a piss-poor, foned in gig on the American Idiot tour.

My favourite Green Day album is Nimrod. I think it's their all-around best, it has the pop stuff, it has the comedy, it has some old-fashioned hardcore in 'Take Back,' it has a kooky instrumental, it's just the most varied, textured and characterful album even including Idiot - at least IMO.

[Patrick]

Chixdiggit

They're on Fat, right?

They're on the Fat Music comps at least once, I know that much.

As for Green Day, dude, Gaz, I think your problem was that you had high expectations of a concert that promoted an album that was entirely based off of invoking Orwellian dystopian imagery at every possible opportunity.

"Wake Me Up When September Ends" is amazing though. And Johnny did manage to find a soft spot when he did his cover of the title track.

(I just wanted to say "Orwellian dystopian imagery" once in a sentence before I die)

[rancidhooligan]

Guys guys guys

Screeching weasel

Thank god someone mentioned Screeching Weasel.

How about The Descendents?  Anybody?  Anybody?  Pop punk does not begin and end with Green Day.  Sheesh.

[MonstersGetSlain]

Where's the love for Lifetime, Teenage Bottlerocket, Delay and Latterman?  C'mon guys...

[ImRonBurgundy?]

Unfortunately, the correct term for Latterman at this point would be "ruled".  Matt Canino, however, moved up here to Olympia and started a new band called Shorebirds with Chris Bauermeister from Jawbreaker.  He also works at the Capitol Theatre occasionally.  Dude sold me popcorn!

[Patrick]

I don't think Hi-STANDARD count as pop punk, but they are certainly punk, and the album that was recently posted to the Mediafire thread is AWESOME.

[Kai]

While they're not all exactly pop punk, The Queers (who I like shut up), Lemuria, Andrew Jackson Jihad and Bomb The Music Industry are all playing a show together pretty soon and I am all kinds of excited.

[ImRonBurgundy?]

I'm hoping to catch that tour when it comes through Seattle, but it's right before finals week starts, so we'll see.

[valley_parade]

While they're not all exactly pop punk, The Queers (who I like shut up), Lemuria, Andrew Jackson Jihad and Bomb The Music Industry are all playing a show together pretty soon and I am all kinds of excited.

I just do NOT get the Andrew Jackson Jihad. =/