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Hey wow, a blog thread.
RedLion:
It's not like civil liberties aren't being infringed America. In fact, it's just as bad as in Britain. Warrentless and illegal wiretapping of phones even with FISA expired, arbitrary arrest and detention (in many cases, police no longer need a warrent to enter your home, thanks to the Patriot Act), and while the internet isn't "censored," make no mistake, what you do and where you go is either monitered first-hand, or the records of those things are handed over to the government by your ISP.
RobbieOC:
I feel like that has to be exaggerating things a little bit. Just about any time someone uses the term "make no mistake" it feels like an exaggeration.
But, it might not be. I don't know.
SeanBateman:
I am dressed really well today.
Ozymandias:
--- Quote from: RedLion on 11 Apr 2008, 08:48 ---It's not like civil liberties aren't being infringed America. In fact, it's just as bad as in Britain. Warrentless and illegal wiretapping of phones even with FISA expired, arbitrary arrest and detention (in many cases, police no longer need a warrent to enter your home, thanks to the Patriot Act), and while the internet isn't "censored," make no mistake, what you do and where you go is either monitered first-hand, or the records of those things are handed over to the government by your ISP.
--- End quote ---
And you're a stupid man, Angus Podgorny, if you think that's different from the previous 60 years of government monitoring of civilians. The law has always been three steps behind the actual actions of the FBI & CIA and has never made an impact in their actions no matter what the law is.
RedLion:
Did I say that? No. Of course there's always been illegal monitoring.
But it was never this bald-faced, egregious and wide-ranging, even at the heights of the red scare, simply because they didn't have the technological capability to handle the mind-boggling amount of information they can get and process nowadays.
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