Topic: Weezer, or an American legacy of continual failure (Read 24525 times)

Christophe · « **on:** 16 Apr 2008, 17:38 »

So the Weez put out a new single on their site called "Pork and Beans".

It's pretty bad, but it's a lot better than anything else they've done since 2001, despite it sounding like a bad Weezer cover band covering a Cake song, and the lyrics are about as insipid as the band has gotten and FUCK ME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I CAN'T STOP LISTENING TO IT GOD DAMN YOU RIVERS CUOMO, GOD DAMN YOU TO HELL YOU CAREERIST CHEAPSKATE.

Share in my misery here!

Johnny C · « **Reply #1 on:** 16 Apr 2008, 17:58 »

SPOILER ALERT: In the second verse, Rivers makes fun of Timbaland.

MrSteevo · « **Reply #2 on:** 16 Apr 2008, 18:01 »

Hmm, making a thread of hatred to a band. Well, I must say, it wasnt my favorites, but I'm going to leave this thread, just to be safe.

(Off topic) Haven't seen you in awhile Johnny, where've you been? (Other then the barren land called Saskatchewan)

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #3 on:** 16 Apr 2008, 18:18 »

Being ashamed at the amount of time spent on here, I would imagine.

Just kidding.

Kai · « **Reply #4 on:** 16 Apr 2008, 19:44 »

This is all a part of the plot to make sure that nobody likes Weezer anymore so that RIvers feels comfortable making good music again.

Obviously.

karl gambolputty... · « **Reply #5 on:** 16 Apr 2008, 20:01 »

I like it. It's got a good beat, and you can dance to it.

Seriously. It's not bad.

sean · « **Reply #6 on:** 16 Apr 2008, 20:08 »

So Johnny, are you just gonna keep on deleting your old posts so you never hit 10,000 or what?

rynne · « **Reply #7 on:** 16 Apr 2008, 20:43 »

That song sucks. I think it must be all the references to specific products & daily events, because the first thing the song reminded me of was LFO's "Summer Girls." You know, "I like girls that wear Abercrombie and Fitch / Chinese food makes me sick"? Not to mention the chorus shows all the evocative imagery of an angsty pre-teen's poetry.

I didn't think they'd sink lower than "Beverly Hills," but Rivers has proved me wrong.

Inlander · « **Reply #8 on:** 16 Apr 2008, 20:46 »

Quote from: Objects inside Clouds on 16 Apr 2008, 20:08

So Johnny, are you just gonna keep on deleting your old posts so you never hit 10,000 or what?

No, he knocked on the door of the 10,000 post club but he was rejected. Now he's going backwards: 9999, 9998, 9997 . . . until he reaches 0 again, and has to start afresh.

It's an extraordinarily hard club to get into; if not even Johnny C can get in then you and I have no chance.

Christophe · « **Reply #9 on:** 16 Apr 2008, 21:07 »

Quote from: rynne on 16 Apr 2008, 20:43

I didn't think they'd sink lower than "Beverly Hills," but Rivers has proved me wrong.

Strange. I had a friend of mine who pretty much said that it might as well be the same as BevHills, but I think that this song is definitely a step up.

But frankly, the song is still so bad that "a step up" doesn't say much. The lyrics are probably just as bad as Beverly Hills' were.

Mobius_Logic · « **Reply #10 on:** 16 Apr 2008, 21:15 »

I'm just trying to get my head around the fact that they use the phrase "i don't give a hoot" in the chorus.

Joseph · « **Reply #11 on:** 16 Apr 2008, 21:31 »

So... Ummm... No one else is with me in thinking this song is pretty great?

Or that Make Believe had a lot of wonderful songs and moments on it?

Also, not enough of you have listened to the A5 demos, which had a large number of songs that were among the best Weezer has ever produced.

Johnny C · « **Reply #12 on:** 16 Apr 2008, 23:27 »

Make Believe was shit, "Beverly Hills" was shit, the A5 demos were great and this song has awesome verses but no hook in the chorus. I am reserving judgment on the record until I can hear it.

valley_parade · « **Reply #13 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 05:16 »

Quote from: Johnny C on 16 Apr 2008, 23:27

Make Believe was shit, "Beverly Hills" was shit, the A5 demos were great and this song has awesome verses but no hook in the chorus. I am reserving judgment on the record until I can hear it.

Ladies and gentlemen, I think I'll have Johnny C post for me from now on.

(Tommy, I think the best A5 demo song was "Mansion of Cardboard")

stale · « **Reply #14 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 06:22 »

Since Pinkerton, I've been hoping for something even half as great.
Green came out, and I was keen on it for a month, but it wasn't what I hoped
Maladroit came out, and I considered it better than Green, but still..
4 1/2 demos came out, and I got my hopes up.
'Make Believe' comes out, and I throw the CD-R away after two listens. What the hell.

I'll no longer look forward to Weezer releases.

öde · « **Reply #15 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 06:37 »

I prefer 'Running Man' maybe.

Christophe · « **Reply #16 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 06:59 »

Alright, I've heard so much about "a bloo bloo bloo A5 demos are good"... I guess it would behoove me to actually listen to them.

Is there a site that has the demos up or do I have to go a-torrentin'? I'm googlin' and I can't find 'em.

stale · « **Reply #17 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 07:22 »

Sure, I'll rar 'em up for sendspace. Hold

stale · « **Reply #18 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 08:03 »

http://www.sendspace.com/file/amyr6o

weezer album 5 demos

Christophe · « **Reply #19 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 08:38 »

Thanks muchly.

Thrillho · « **Reply #20 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 12:42 »

Note to self: Avoid thread that is bashing the first band you ever loved.

Christophe · « **Reply #21 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 12:48 »

It was the first band I ever loved too, dude. I didn't mean this to be an all out "Bash Weezer!" thread, more as a discussion of their newest single, but you've got to admit they've written a bunch of stinkers.

Then again, I've heard some of the A5 demo songs so far and am liking them a lot more than the other new Weezer stuff I've heard.

Joseph · « **Reply #22 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 13:43 »

I listened to Make Believe today, since it had been a while since I had done so, and this thread made me want to see if I was decieving myself. Yeah, a bunch of the songs aren't very good, some even really bad ("We Are All On Drugs", "Beverly Hills", "Freak Me Out"). But some of those songs are excellent. There are problems with unnecessary guitar solos, but "Perfect Situation", "Hold Me", "Peace", and "Haunt You Everyday" were all standouts, and none of the other songs made me cringe in the least.

Maybe this should be a guilty pleasure. Maybe I am wrong.

But I really, actually enjoy this album.

karl gambolputty... · « **Reply #23 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 13:52 »

It seems like there's a split between people who've known and loved Weezer since the Blue Album/Pinkerton days, and people who got into them more recently. I didn't start listening to them until after the Green Album came out, and to me, there's really not a huge drop in quality across the board. Just a move from total unadulterated brilliance to just... (for the most part) good. I can totally see how that would make the new stuff sound awful to the old fans, but I really don't think it is.

Joseph · « **Reply #24 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 15:01 »

Tommy, did you hear that demos album Rivers released last year? It was pretty darn good, though there weren't many songs that hadn't been floating around the internet for years already. Sloan plays one of the songs.

öde · « **Reply #25 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 15:05 »

367.mp3 Mansion Of Cardboard.mp3 Superstar.mp3
Fontana.mp3 Private Message.mp3 The Organ Player.mp3
Hey Domingo.mp3 Queen Of Earth.mp3 The Victor.mp3
Lullaby.mp3 Running Man.mp3 Untenable.mp3
Mad Kow.mp3 She Who Is Militant.mp3

Strange, that's what I have. To the downloader!

Joseph · « **Reply #26 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 16:50 »

Quote from: tommydski on 17 Apr 2008, 14:28

'Yellow Camaro' - Stuff like this makes you realise that if Rivers wasn't such an egotistical cocksocket and actually allowed the rest of his band to write some songs for Weezer, things would be a lot better.

Apparently the new album includes songs from the other band members.

LucyStag · « **Reply #27 on:** 17 Apr 2008, 21:36 »

This thread made me remember "Beverly Hills" existed and now it's stuck in my head. I cannot stress how much I hate all of you right now.

Now I am going to see if these legendry demos are as unsucky as they always claimed.

valley_parade · « **Reply #28 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 05:31 »

Quote from: tommydski on 17 Apr 2008, 14:28

Typical Rivers trick of doubling the vocal in the verse as his guitar solo.

See, that's kind of why I didn't like the Green Album that much. It got really repetitive after a few songs.

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'Prodigy Lover' - They actually showed this being recorded on that Weezer DVD right? That was how this whole session was recorded I believe. Another fine song.

Somewhat. I've heard two or three different versions (one without piano), but yeah, there's one on Video Capture Device.

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Caspian · « **Reply #29 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 09:14 »

My Weezer knowledge starts and ends with 'My Name is Jonas' from guitar hero III. It's ok, quite catchy, but for the life of me I can't understand why a pop-punk band (at these that's what Jonas sounds like) gets any sort of indie cred.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #30 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 09:31 »

RobbieOC · « **Reply #31 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 09:57 »

I consider In the Garage to be one of the best songs ever written about Nightcrawler.

And, El Scorcho found its way into a ridiculously high percentage of mix tapes I've made.

Thrillho · « **Reply #32 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 12:58 »

Quote from: Caspian on 18 Apr 2008, 09:14

My Weezer knowledge starts and ends with 'My Name is Jonas' from guitar hero III. It's ok, quite catchy, but for the life of me I can't understand why a pop-punk band (at these that's what Jonas sounds like) gets any sort of indie cred.

...I think every puppy in the world just died.

Christophe · « **Reply #33 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 13:08 »

Good thing I hate puppies.

Not really, but I am allergic as fuck to cats.

dalconnsuch · « **Reply #34 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 13:16 »

i had a girlfriend who loved weezer

those horrible romantic decisions, i tried to accept her love for weezer

all it braught was nightmares

i would like to say "i wish weezer died in a fire" but then they'd
be awesomely famous and credited as "one of the incredible
bands of the 90's" in an instant

Joseph · « **Reply #35 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 13:40 »

Quote from: dalconnsuch on 18 Apr 2008, 13:16

they'd
be awesomely famous and credited as "one of the incredible
bands of the 90's" in an instant

Too late.

Also, I find the way you formatted that post, with the splitting of sentences in the middle into new paragraphs, really interesting. There any reasoning behind it?

Ikrik · « **Reply #36 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 15:08 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid on 18 Apr 2008, 12:58

Quote from: Caspian on 18 Apr 2008, 09:14
My Weezer knowledge starts and ends with 'My Name is Jonas' from guitar hero III. It's ok, quite catchy, but for the life of me I can't understand why a pop-punk band (at these that's what Jonas sounds like) gets any sort of indie cred.

...I think every puppy in the world just died.

I'd think so.....but there's the off chance that he's just joking......you're joking right? Where have you been for like....the past 10 years? Every hippy and psuedo-geek I know loves Weezer....how does someone not know weezer?

Thrillho · « **Reply #37 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 15:16 »

Quote from: Dark Flame on 18 Apr 2008, 13:40

Also, I find the way you formatted that post, with the splitting of sentences in the middle into new paragraphs, really interesting. There any reasoning behind it?

I'm putting my money on the table and saying 'brain tumour.'

I finally listened to 'Pork and Beans' today, and I quite like it. The chorus is slightly by-numbers, but I like the slightly quirky acoustic thing in the verse, and this self-referential 'make a catchy song!' thing he's got going on.

What I hope most is that he's stuck to this six minute epics thing he suggested he was doing in the liner notes to Alone.

Plus, the new album is red and self-titled. Is this a good sign, we ask?

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #38 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 15:22 »

Serious question, why is Pinkerton the only Weezer album that I can stand to listen to. I think it's awesome. I think every single other thing they have ever done has been complete shit. I really want to know why, other than "Pinkerton sounds different from all their other albums".

I liked The Rentals a lot more.

Ikrik · « **Reply #39 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 15:25 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 18 Apr 2008, 15:22

Serious question, why is Pinkerton the only Weezer album that I can stand to listen to. I think it's awesome. I think every single other thing they have ever done has been complete shit. I really want to know why, other than "Pinkerton sounds different from all their other albums".

I think that Pinkerton is the only Weezer album I haven't listened to in it's complete entirety. Maybe that's why I don't get why people like Weezer so much. I mean there are some great ones on their self-titled.....but not enough that it was amazing. Maybe I should give Pinkerton a listen or two.

Lines · « **Reply #40 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 15:48 »

I still like Weezer. But I only listen to their older stuff, so I guess I'll just keep listening to what I have and go on liking Weezer.

Tom · « **Reply #41 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 15:49 »

Quote from: Ikrik on 18 Apr 2008, 15:08

I'd think so.....but there's the off chance that he's just joking......you're joking right? Where have you been for like....the past 10 years? Every hippy and psuedo-geek I know loves Weezer....how does someone not know weezer?

*sheepishly raises hand* Wait, I have an excuse. I live in friggin Australia...

michaelicious · « **Reply #42 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 15:52 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 18 Apr 2008, 15:22

I liked The Rentals a lot more.

The Rentals are still pretty good!

Christophe · « **Reply #43 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 15:59 »

Hey DynamiteKid, some of the old boardies from ATNW are apparently coming back to the official forums. You think you'll re-register?

Me personally, I'll very fucking pass unless I have a good reason to. Or if I have no real reason to.\

Foot-in-Mouth edit: Fuck me I just re-registered.

GenericName · « **Reply #44 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 18:52 »

Quote from: Dark Flame on 18 Apr 2008, 13:40

Quote from: dalconnsuch on 18 Apr 2008, 13:16
they'd
be awesomely famous and credited as "one of the incredible
bands of the 90's" in an instant

Too late.

Also, I find the way you formatted that post, with the splitting of sentences in the middle into new paragraphs, really interesting. There any reasoning behind it?

I'm registering a vote for "failed haiku".

Also, I heard Weezer the other day while working on the school play, and found it to sound really shit?

Tom · « **Reply #45 on:** 18 Apr 2008, 23:59 »

Sorry, statement or question?

Caspian · « **Reply #46 on:** 19 Apr 2008, 00:18 »

Quote from: Ikrik on 18 Apr 2008, 15:08

Quote from: DynamiteKid on 18 Apr 2008, 12:58
Quote from: Caspian on 18 Apr 2008, 09:14
My Weezer knowledge starts and ends with 'My Name is Jonas' from guitar hero III. It's ok, quite catchy, but for the life of me I can't understand why a pop-punk band (at these that's what Jonas sounds like) gets any sort of indie cred.

...I think every puppy in the world just died.

I'd think so.....but there's the off chance that he's just joking......you're joking right? Where have you been for like....the past 10 years? Every hippy and psuedo-geek I know loves Weezer....how does someone not know weezer?

Oh, well I've heard the name before. I'm not much of a hippy or pseudo-geek, if that helps. Perhaps they're bigger in America then they are here? Honestly, I haven't really heard any mention of them in any media outlet down here, nor do I know anyone who likes them. I think I read an interview with Rivers Cuomo in Guitar World a few years, but that's been it for me.

Thrillho · « **Reply #47 on:** 19 Apr 2008, 02:57 »

Quote from: TheLetterM on 18 Apr 2008, 15:59

Hey DynamiteKid, some of the old boardies from ATNW are apparently coming back to the official forums. You think you'll re-register?

Me personally, I'll very fucking pass unless I have a good reason to. Or if I have no real reason to.\

Foot-in-Mouth edit: Fuck me I just re-registered.

I dunno, I'm not sure I really want to, honestly. Those board were horrible, I'm not sure why exactly I miss them in all honesty. I might re-register and see what happens.

SevenPinkerton · « **Reply #48 on:** 19 Apr 2008, 07:34 »

I guess I liked Weezer at some point. Or had a complete obsession. Whatever.

Either way, I love most of the album 5 demos. And I like The Organ Player, he uses the word Necromancer. And it makes me happy. They're also the last good songs I've ever heard Weezer play and ever expect to hear.

I'm going to go listen to Sandwiches Time and giggle now.

jeph · « **Reply #49 on:** 19 Apr 2008, 08:10 »

Playing weezer songs in rock band/guitar hero is pretty rad. Beyond that I don't have much use for them.

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dalconnsuch

SevenPinkerton