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The Great Porn Debate

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tania:
oh come on, everyone knows missionary is the most boring sex position.

i'll probably write a longer post later if people actually care enough to debate about porn (i won't be offended if no one does), but a very short summary would be that i don't watch porn because i find about 90% of it really terrifyingly degrading to women. when it comes to porn in general, it's a huge turn on to see people in pornographic film who are really comfortable with their sexuality and with what they're doing. i don't think there's even a point in anybody denying that sex exists, ever, so the whole "it's just perverse!" argument is one i'm not even going to bother with. sex happens, some people like to be watched and some people like to watch other people. that's cool with me.

RobbieOC:
My biggest problem with porn is that I feel like 99% of it is just some girl who needed to make some quick cash, and then ends up deeper in than she expected. I don't know how often that happens, but I saw some TV special about one girl that that happened to, and it kind of ruined things for me (which I am okay with). Basically, it's so surface and shallow, that it really isn't a turn on to me anymore like it was when I was 15.

ruyi:
I agree with what Tania says about porn that's mass-produced and the easiest to access. I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with its existence if it weren't for the fact that for a lot of younger people, their first formative encounter with sex is through this shit, and then they have to go through the trouble of unlearning a lot of things.

Dimmukane:

--- Quote from: RobbieOC on 22 Apr 2008, 18:45 ---My biggest problem with porn is that I feel like 99% of it is just some girl who needed to make some quick cash, and then ends up deeper in than she expected. I don't know how often that happens, but I saw some TV special about one girl that that happened to, and it kind of ruined things for me (which I am okay with). Basically, it's so surface and shallow, that it really isn't a turn on to me anymore like it was when I was 15.

--- End quote ---

Yeah, there are quite a few sad stories out there about this.  Quite a few suicides and overdoses, plenty of addicts, etc., there's not a whole lot of positive stories out there.  Asia Carrera is in MENSA.  That's about it.  Everything else is pretty much an 'I needed money/am a nympho/fetishist'.  One of the more popular stars is leaving the business to work in real estate (Eve Lawrence).  I imagine most of them don't stick around for very long due to lack of any kind of pension.

RedLion:
I don't have a problem with the idea of porn. It's natural. Erotic art and presentation has been around since art itself was first created (though modern porn certainly isn't an art form). The way it's carried out nowadays really bugs me though. It's almost sickeningly exploitative, and violent, extreme porn has been gaining traction, particularly on the internet. I suppose it's better for people who have a rape fetish to get their fill of it by staged porn rather than indulging in their desires, but at the same time, it degrades sex, which should be the most wonderful thing in life.

The notion that sex should wait until you've found your "soul-mate" and gotten married is both unrealistic, unhealthy, and against out biological and mental instincts and basic drives. Sexual promiscuity has gotten a bit out of hand in some ways, though, and it's been reflected in the degree to which porn has become outright violent towards women.

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