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Weird vista problem
3Z3VH:
Heh, that is another funny little thing... when people say "By the time this version of Windows is fixed, the next one will already be out, and I will just use that"... as if the next version will be instantly matured without any issues.
I think the only Microsoft OSes I have used that installed and worked without a single issue, were; Windows XP, Windows 98 Second Edition, and MS-DOS 6.22 (DOS 4.01 wasn't bad either).
If you constantly wait for Windows to be mature with a new release, I hope you don't need a computer for the majority of your lifetime.
Dimmukane:
I'm not waiting for Windows to be mature. I'm waiting for all the hardware manufacturers to mature. Wasn't it 30% of the errors reported with Vista came from nVidia drivers alone? From what I've observed, these kinds of things may take a little while to fix. It's at a somewhat acceptable level now, but I'd still like to hold off until I've played the last few of the older games that aren't backwards compatible with Vista. Mostly Planescape: Torment, because everyone tells me to play that and I still haven't gotten around to it.
Oh well, like I said, I'll probably end up buying it the next time I have to re-install XP and my key gives out on me, and then holding off on Windows 7 for two years so my purchase feels justified.
Edit: DAMN, I looked up how much Home Premium would cost (the version I would pretty much have to get for what I need), I've also decided to hold off until they have a considerable sale. This is not me saying I think MS is full of greedy bastards, this is me saying I don't have that amount of money to spend on a new OS. I'm hoping to start interning at Big Huge Games or Bethesda Softworks in the next year or so, when I'll be able to make enough to afford it.
2nd Edit: Turns out Best Buy is cheaper than most online retailers. I'm still gonna hope I don't have to for another 6 months, 240 is still a bit much for me right now.
3Z3VH:
If you have a major manufacturer's PC, you can legally buy and use the OEM version which is considerably cheaper. Also, if you bought all the required parts for a computer to boot from a single online vendor and built it yourself, you can do so as well... I bought my motherboard, processor, RAM, case, Power Supply, Video Card, and Hard Drives from NewEgg, and thus, bought Ultimate for $180 or so (Then subsequently got another free copy from a Microsoft Windows 2008 launch event)
Dimmukane:
Huh. Newegg has Premium in the Home section, and 3 3-disk OEM premiums in the Premium section. That's confusing. Any idea what the difference is between the 1 and 3 disk versions? Man I'm tired. That's for a 3-pack, not a 3-DVD OS.
I'm still gonna hold out until I beat Planescape:Torment, regardless.
And again looking at it, I may stick with my original statement about wanting to upgrade. When I bought my FX-74, I was under the impression that it was a 64-bit. This is apparently not the case. It's labeled as one, but in the environment variables bit it says x86. This may be because it's currently running a 32-bit OS, but I don't honestly know which is right. If it turns out it isn't 64-bit, I may wait until getting a new CPU/Mobo so I can take advantage of that.
est:
--- Quote from: 3Z3VH on 06 May 2008, 19:34 ---People who are still hating on Vista are only doing so because they like whining
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Or perhaps because they are trying to run it on a machine that can't. When I arrived at my current workplace they had about a dozen PCs here with Vista Business edition on them that ran like absolute dogs no mater what we did with them. They were very capable business machines. E6600 with 2gb ram. The problem was probably that they used IGPs which were quite capable of running everything needed for business apps but that Vista thumbed its nose at. Turning off the flashy UI & UAC didn't help the ultra-long login/logout process that users were continually bitching about & the opinion of the system of people using Vista machines plummeted. Once I rebuilt all those machines to XP the complaints magically stopped (along with a whole bunch of network traffic the network admin here was complaining about constantly)
Also, perhaps people prefer the look & feel of WinXP over Vista or play games that run slower under Vista. Or perhaps they don't feel that there is a compelling enough reason to move over to Vista and re-learn a bunch if little quirks/tweaks in order to get the most out of the new OS. Shiny graphics aren't a good reason, as I turn all that shit off. Benchmarks of XP vs Vista are hardly persuasive either. There may be settings I have yet to find that stop Vista from doing whatever the fuck it is doing in the background, but until I do find those settings I am not going to magically stop hating that it is doing it. I've turned off indexing and backups and all that shit, but it still keeps doing stupid shit in the background.
It's pretty much now down to a personal choice, much the same as any other OS choice. If you like the look of Vista and think there's enough stuff in there to make the move or choose it for your OEM OS on a new machine then that's great. But if you want XP for whatever reason then that is also your choice. I hardly think that merits being insulted.
Here's a question! Perhaps it'll help me, or perhaps I'll already find the answer once I get home and this is nothing more than a memory aide for me, but either way here goes. Is there some kind of background disk defragging in Vista? I know that you can still call it up and tell it to defrag and it treats you like a child showing you a "defragmenting!" screen with no other information, but I think I remember reading something about it defragging in the background. Perhaps this is what it is doing that pisses me off so much. If it is and I can turn it off (or at least choose to leave it on) I'll be one step closer to being able to run it without wanting to stab something, seeing as everything else seems to be running fairly well at the moment.
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