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KvP:
That'd be the Dark Knight Returns continuity, I think. They graft up his disfigured face and in so doing give Two-Face complete control over Dent forever, which was interesting because you'd naturally assume that the disfigured side of him would represent Two-Face and the non-disfigured side would represent Dent. That's been done in other comics but he usually re-fucks up his face.

Not that it really matters, "Dent" died when his face got burnt. In the Dark Knight there's no Harvey Dent / Two-Face dichotomy to speak of. When Dent becomes Two-Face, he is Two-Face. There's no internal conflict, no struggle between the sides. He's just a psycho. Which I didn't like, but I suppose it fits better in the Nolan universe.

Johnny C:
The internal conflict is reduced to the coin.

He is psychotic but still bound by a vestige of his old self.

KvP:
Honestly, I think we're being disingenuous when we say Dent "becomes" Two-Face. They're the same character, and the change is a (stretched, depending on your perspective) logical progression. The case has been made for Dent having a "dark side" shown earlier in the film but I think that's really just smoke. Dent is completely in control, for instance, when he captures the schizophrenic and plays russian roulette with him. He's never going to be in the position to cross the line, because he knows his coin doesn't have tails and thus he'll never kill the guy. Dent in the film is not like Dent in the comics, who becomes schizophrenic and exhibits multiple personalities. Dent in the film believes in himself and his ability to make things right the right way, by bending but not breaking the rules. By killing Dawes the Joker breaks Dent's spirit and convinces him that he can never do what he promised himself he'd do as DA. So Dent lashes out in resentment, just like the Joker wants him to.

The coin toss isn't a manifestation of who Dent was before his loss, nor is it a part of him that wants to do the right thing. Dent believes he is powerless, that his choices don't matter, so he leaves them to the coin. Two-Face is just Dent without faith or restraint.

That's my take on it, anyway.

Dissy:
Fuck KvP, Spoiler Alert much?

I always felt that in the comics Harvey Dent was in control of himself.  Did he know that he had schizophrenia?  Probably, but did we know?  Not until after the scarification.  Dent/Two-Face chosethe 2 headed coin, because, 1.) He now has two heads as he sees it, 2.) In his insanity, he believes that everything is Black and White, Good and Evil, Life and Death, Two sides of a coin.  Initially, he looses every sense of moral ambiguity, there is only the duality of everything.

KvP:
I felt I was covered by the "SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3" in the title of the thread. This is the 4th page, after all.

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