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The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
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Actually, it's the 6th and there have been many spoilers since page 3. People have been warned.
johnny5:
--- Quote from: KvP on 02 Aug 2008, 14:01 --- Mr. Reese has to make an appearance in the third movie, as he apparently had legitimate enough claims to knowing who Batman is to get on television,
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i kind of thought he was resolved when he got saved by bruce wayne. however i could see him coming back in a minor role - perhaps as a hostage.
--- Quote ---If the Joker can manage to rig an entire hospital with cheap explosives unnoticed (and the cops wouldn't use the fucking explosive detectors they used on the bridges to find the explosives in the hospital)
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the joker rigged the explosives beforehand and then called into the TV show, telling everyone to kill Reese or he blows up a hospital. the cops would have no time to check every hospital for the explosives.
--- Quote ---and crash a high-society fundraiser high on a skyscraper without getting even threatened by the cops
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cops are on their payroll/got ambushed and killed (remember seeing the cop show his badge before the joker got out of the elevator?)
--- Quote ---or blow up a firetruck on a street cleared by the cops without anybody noticing (and why the fuck couldn't they go around a different way that was clearly shown instead of falling into the obvious trap?)
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i agree with this. at first i thought the cop in the passenger seat might be a mob guy, as he diverts the entire route to lower 5th instead of the other side of the road. however, in the end, it turned out Gordon had planned the whole thing and was using Dent as the bait, remember?
overall i don't think there were many huge holes in the story.
pilsner:
Aside from the whole what happened when the Joker was left alone in a room with a whole bunch of defenseless but very wealthy Gothamites after he threw Rachel out the window thing. Also, wouldn't it have made more sense for Batman to shoot Joker's big rig with rockets rather than jump into the way of the bazooka shot? Seems like a better bet, plus you'd think rockets would go faster than the battank with its booster. Sure it might not have wrecked the big rig, but you'd think it would have ruined the shot at least as effectively as diving in the way. Oh and Harvey Dent's magical ability to waltz through Gotham in the middle of the day and infiltrate the mob boss's heavily guarded car.
But yeah it had a lot fewer plot holes than the first one. And it's a comic book movie. Which I just saw for a second time on IMAX. So totally worth it.
Thy Dungeonman:
Well, he did put on his seatbelt.
Scarychips:
--- Quote from: KvP on 04 Aug 2008, 13:38 ---The case has been made for Dent having a "dark side" shown earlier in the film but I think that's really just smoke. Dent is completely in control, for instance, when he captures the schizophrenic and plays russian roulette with him. He's never going to be in the position to cross the line, because he knows his coin doesn't have tails and thus he'll never kill the guy. Dent in the film is not like Dent in the comics, who becomes schizophrenic and exhibits multiple personalities. Dent in the film believes in himself and his ability to make things right the right way, by bending but not breaking the rules. By killing Dawes the Joker breaks Dent's spirit and convinces him that he can never do what he promised himself he'd do as DA. So Dent lashes out in resentment, just like the Joker wants him to.
The coin toss isn't a manifestation of who Dent was before his loss, nor is it a part of him that wants to do the right thing. Dent believes he is powerless, that his choices don't matter, so he leaves them to the coin. Two-Face is just Dent without faith or restraint.
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At the point where he is playing the russian roulette, there's no face and tails, it's burn and not burn. He still had a "chance" of killing himself.
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