Topic: Any respect for Reggae anymore (Read 21840 times)

rofflesaurusrex · « **on:** 20 May 2008, 17:04 »

Dont get me wrong there are 1000's of band out there that get no where near the
respect they deserve, but does anyone have respect left for some good ol' reggae?

Funk Thompson · « **Reply #1 on:** 20 May 2008, 17:12 »

I've just never gotten into reggae - don't get me wrong, there are a few songs I like, but it is one of those types of music I can only handle in small doses. Even a lot of the 'reggae-ish' bands like 311 I can only handle for a short while.

rofflesaurusrex · « **Reply #2 on:** 20 May 2008, 17:15 »

In my opinion reggae is more or less aquired taste, i gained respect over some time and actually feelin out the songs and artists. but who really cares what i think

Funk Thompson · « **Reply #3 on:** 20 May 2008, 17:22 »

Sorry, wasn't trying to poop on your thread

"There is no accounting for taste" - mine and yours included

rofflesaurusrex · « **Reply #4 on:** 20 May 2008, 17:25 »

thats totally fine man im not sayin you did

imapiratearg · « **Reply #5 on:** 20 May 2008, 18:16 »

I guess? From what I've heard I like, but the only real experience with it is through crossover bands or albums like the Bedouin Soundclash and My Morning Jacket's Z.

ImRonBurgundy? · « **Reply #6 on:** 20 May 2008, 18:29 »

ViolentDove · « **Reply #7 on:** 20 May 2008, 18:39 »

Er... yes?

Maybe you're not mixing in the right circles!

Plenty of people I know congregate in parks to listen to reggae/dub on home-made sound systems, and smoke a few spliffs and drink a few long-necks. Great way to spend a summer afternoon.

Mr. Mojo · « **Reply #8 on:** 20 May 2008, 18:52 »

I completely laugh at one person respecting reggae.

KickThatBathProf · « **Reply #9 on:** 20 May 2008, 18:57 »

I'm not even sure that option is respecting reggae. It's kinda weirdly yelling at raggae.

Mr. Mojo · « **Reply #10 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:00 »

Quote from: KickThatBathProf on 20 May 2008, 18:57

I'm not even sure that option is respecting reggae. It's kinda weirdly yelling at raggae.

What.

KickThatBathProf · « **Reply #11 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:01 »

Quote from: Poll Question

YEEEEeeeE

Mr. Mojo · « **Reply #12 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:03 »

Quote from: KickThatBathProf on 20 May 2008, 19:01

Quote from: Poll Question
YEEEEeeeE

It means yes.

KickThatBathProf · « **Reply #13 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:05 »

You don't say...

rofflesaurusrex · « **Reply #14 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:05 »

Quote from: Mr. Mojo on 20 May 2008, 19:03

Quote from: KickThatBathProf on 20 May 2008, 19:01
Quote from: Poll Question
YEEEEeeeE

It means yes.

yes dude it does

KickThatBathProf · « **Reply #15 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:06 »

Man, you guys are helpful

Mr. Mojo · « **Reply #16 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:07 »

Quote from: KickThatBathProf on 20 May 2008, 19:06

Man, you guys are helpful

About as helpful as a midget lifeguard you doesn't know how to swim

KickThatBathProf · « **Reply #17 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:15 »

What?

Mr. Mojo · « **Reply #18 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:18 »

Quote from: Ben792x on 20 May 2008, 19:15

I see what he is saying. It sounds like a midget lifeguard's last breath escaping to the surface, as opposed to a vocal sign of affirmation e.g. "Yes"

Thank you Ben.

KickThatBathProf · « **Reply #19 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:20 »

You are wise in the ways of midget drowning

orangepeas · « **Reply #20 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:24 »

you are guys are silly.

i like some reggae...hmm

the Goat · « **Reply #21 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:39 »

Reggae gets love from me, despite its association with douche bags, it's pretty solid. Black Uhuru and Steel Pulse are genuinely good.

Dub, though, dub's a tough one. I like most of the music that island has put out, but dub was always the toughest nut to crack. For a long time I couldn't escape the feeling that it was just ruining good songs. I got the Trojan Dub sets, vol 1 & 2, tried really hard to figure out what it was that made people like the Clash, Fugazi, and others found so great about it. I could see how some of the techniques were interesting and clever, but in and of itself, I couldn't find it that listenable. Perhaps its the fact that its club music and sitting in your room listening to it late at night isn't the best way for an American white boy to appreciate it. Augustus Pablo and the Upsetters I dig, though.

Dimmukane · « **Reply #22 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:40 »

What I know and enjoy of reggae is restricted to pretty much Marley and Sublime. I've never heard other stuff that I like.

sean · « **Reply #23 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:41 »

A list of adjectives to describe Sean's opinion of Reggae:

Bland
Boring
Uninteresting
Repetitive
Futile
Dull
Pointless

The list goes on and on kids!

The Viz · « **Reply #24 on:** 20 May 2008, 19:58 »

I'm not a huge fan of reggae, but I dig it from every now and then. Bedouin Soundclash is amazing. I tend to like a lot of bands with a reggae influence...The Police, obviously, Sublime, and even a lot of ska bands (even though the earliest ska obviously predates reggae, the newer bands tend to take cues from the Reggae camp). Westbound Train and the Slackers are both really good reggae bands that take a lot of influence from the early days of reggae and ska music.

orangepeas · « **Reply #25 on:** 20 May 2008, 20:26 »

Bedouin Soundclash makes me proud to be Canadian.

Desmond Dekker anyone?

ViolentDove · « **Reply #26 on:** 20 May 2008, 20:34 »

Quote from: the Goat on 20 May 2008, 19:39

Reggae gets love from me, despite its association with douche bags, it's pretty solid. Black Uhuru and Steel Pulse are genuinely good.

Dub, though, dub's a tough one. I like most of the music that island has put out, but dub was always the toughest nut to crack. For a long time I couldn't escape the feeling that it was just ruining good songs. I got the Trojan Dub sets, vol 1 & 2, tried really hard to figure out what it was that made people like the Clash, Fugazi, and others found so great about it. I could see how some of the techniques were interesting and clever, but in and of itself, I couldn't find it that listenable. Perhaps its the fact that its club music and sitting in your room listening to it late at night isn't the best way for an American white boy to appreciate it. Augustus Pablo and the Upsetters I dig, though.

Augustus Pablo is pretty awesome!

For me, Reggae is dance music... as you say, it is better to listen to in a club, or on a decent sound system with proper bass. As for dub... have you heard much Sly and Robbie? Some of their stuff I don't much care for, but some of it is pure gold.

I'm not sure what you're saying about reggae's association with douche bags. People I meet at reggae/dub gigs tend to be some of the friendlier, more approachable people of any scene I've been to gigs of (also psy-trance people, for some reason, though I can't stand the music).

the Goat · « **Reply #27 on:** 20 May 2008, 21:05 »

Quote from: ViolentDove on 20 May 2008, 20:34

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I'm not sure what you're saying about reggae's association with douche bags. People I meet at reggae/dub gigs tend to be some of the friendlier, more approachable people of any scene I've been to gigs of (also psy-trance people, for some reason, though I can't stand the music).

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Maybe it's a northeast thing, or just unique to my situation, but when I was growing up, the only people I knew who were into reggae, besides myself and one or two friends who liked it because of its association with ska, were, if you will, trust-fund hippies. In Vermont, it was all the kids into Dave Matthews and Phish who wore Jamaican flags, those retarded beanie hats and Bob Marley t-shirts that talked about forming (or formed) really shitty reggae jam bands. In Rhode Island, it was much the same except they had this weird political slant on it, like they were reimagining themselves as Trenchtown residents in Barrington. Since then, I've come to associate a lot of reggae with those kids, clueless stoner rich kids that listen to and make shitty music. I realize that, worldwide, they're in the minority, but it is they who are the douchebags I'm referring to.

KickThatBathProf · « **Reply #28 on:** 20 May 2008, 21:10 »

See, the type of person I've usually known to listen to reggae is a different variety douchebag: the frat douchebag

Inlander · « **Reply #29 on:** 20 May 2008, 21:26 »

Once again I am forced to let YouTube make my arguments for me.

If you listen to this and don't come away humming the tune all day with a smile on your face, it may be that reggae just isn't for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDxRZ8xnjM&feature=related

Or it might be that you have terrible taste in music. Who knows?

David_Dovey · « **Reply #30 on:** 20 May 2008, 21:34 »

We had to do an assignment a while ago on a single genre, and one of the people did reggae, and it was through that I got a decent grounding in the (non-Marley) great early stuff from Jamaica and the cooler more recent stuff. I still don't really listen to reggae but I've got a lot more respect for it and I realise there's a lot more to it than I thought.

Plus reggae drumming is mad fun.

Caspian · « **Reply #31 on:** 20 May 2008, 22:17 »

I'm not a groovy black man.

Therefore, I do not listen to reggae. Bob Marley is good for acoustic sing alongs, though.

pat101 · « **Reply #32 on:** 20 May 2008, 22:19 »

Quote from: orangepeas on 20 May 2008, 20:26

Bedouin Soundclash makes me slightly ashamed to be Canadian.

that being said I love reggae/dub music

ViolentDove · « **Reply #33 on:** 20 May 2008, 22:33 »

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Maybe it's a northeast thing, or just unique to my situation, but when I was growing up, the only people I knew who were into reggae, besides myself and one or two friends who liked it because of its association with ska, were, if you will, trust-fund hippies. In Vermont, it was all the kids into Dave Matthews and Phish who wore Jamaican flags, those retarded beanie hats and Bob Marley t-shirts that talked about forming (or formed) really shitty reggae jam bands. In Rhode Island, it was much the same except they had this weird political slant on it, like they were reimagining themselves as Trenchtown residents in Barrington. Since then, I've come to associate a lot of reggae with those kids, clueless stoner rich kids that listen to and make shitty music. I realize that, worldwide, they're in the minority, but it is they who are the douchebags I'm referring to.

That's unfortunate. Over here (Australia) it's a pretty niche scene that either draws fans from the more electronic/DIY side of things (fans of jungle, dnb, ragga & dancehall) or those who're more into live bands. You do get the kind've people you're talking about occasionally, but they're definitely in the minority.

The bands we have doing the rounds are generally not stoned college jam bands, either. For example, one of the better local reggae acts is a bunch of old guys, who had an "illegal" immigrant as their MC (King Tide if anyone wants to check them out. Their MC has since been deported). We also get a lot of reggae acts touring from New Zealand. New Zealand has an absolutely massive reggae scene for some reason.

20 jazz funk greats · « **Reply #34 on:** 20 May 2008, 22:35 »

Quote from: Caspian on 20 May 2008, 22:17

I'm not a groovy black man.

neither am i, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying lee perry occasionally.

Inlander · « **Reply #35 on:** 20 May 2008, 23:28 »

Quote from: Caspian on 20 May 2008, 22:17

I'm not a groovy black man.

And with that attitude, you never will be!

KharBevNor · « **Reply #36 on:** 21 May 2008, 00:44 »

I've not really got much into reggae, but I have been getting slowly into dub over the past year or two. The initial cause, actually, was the GTA 3 soundtrack, and that album (Scientist Rids the Earth of the Evil Curse of the Vampires) is still far and away one of my favourite dub albums. I have also been listening to a good bit of Keith Hudson, King Tubby and the Aggrovators, among others.

Seriously though, how can you not be liking this shit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTnvM34JMeM

rofflesaurusrex · « **Reply #37 on:** 21 May 2008, 03:59 »

Quote from: Inlander on 20 May 2008, 21:26

Once again I am forced to let YouTube make my arguments for me.

If you listen to this and don't come away humming the tune all day with a smile on your face, it may be that reggae just isn't for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDxRZ8xnjM&feature=related

Or it might be that you have terrible taste in music. Who knows?

A great reggae track on vinyl, its too amazing connections

David_Dovey · « **Reply #38 on:** 21 May 2008, 05:05 »

Quote from: ViolentDove on 20 May 2008, 22:33

That's unfortunate. Over here (Australia) it's a pretty niche scene that either draws fans from the more electronic/DIY side of things (fans of jungle, dnb, ragga & dancehall) or those who're more into live bands.

That reminds me, there's an incredible Australian band called Blue King Brown. They're not really reggae as such, although they definitely incorporate elements of that along with salsa, afrobeat, blues and a whole bunch of other stuff. They are fucking amazing live.

Kai · « **Reply #39 on:** 21 May 2008, 05:17 »

I reallllly enjoy dub. way more than anybody probably should. Reggae, I don't listen to as much mostly because I haven't had much incentive to seek it out.

suitupletsgo · « **Reply #40 on:** 21 May 2008, 05:50 »

as long as no one speaks of reggaeton, we're good.

CamusCanDo · « **Reply #41 on:** 21 May 2008, 06:11 »

Quote from: ViolentDove on 20 May 2008, 22:33

We also get a lot of reggae acts touring from New Zealand. New Zealand has an absolutely massive reggae scene for some reason.

Yeah, a lot of people over here go apeshit for reggae, and I'm really not sure how to explain it either. The only connection I've made is that between my family and friends. A lot of reggae musicans are Maori/pacfic islander, and growing up in a maori family with maori friends there was a lot of love for reggae. For the most part I've realized from people that I know, who are into reggae, tend to be really laid back and cool guys. Who like to get mad stoned and surf, which is also why Jack Johnson is huge over here too.

Jepser · « **Reply #42 on:** 21 May 2008, 07:21 »

MANU CHAO.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #43 on:** 21 May 2008, 08:31 »

Quote from: ViolentDove on 20 May 2008, 22:33

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Stuff.

That's unfortunate. Over here (Australia) it's a pretty niche scene that either draws fans from the more electronic/DIY side of things (fans of jungle, dnb, ragga & dancehall) or those who're more into live bands. You do get the kind've people you're talking about occasionally, but they're definitely in the minority.

I have seen and met very few of these people, even in Vermont. As far as I can tell, it is a niche here, too. Although, slightly less of a niche due to Phish's influence and Vermont having one of the highest concentrations of hippies per square mile. What is not a niche here are bad punk and country jam bands.

Red Peril · « **Reply #44 on:** 21 May 2008, 09:19 »

Listening to reggae is like Groundhog Day, the same elements repeated over and over again in different orders and combinations. It is probably the least diverse musical movement ever to have existed. Dub is a different issue, most American dub is godawful which might explain its wholesale rejection on this forum, and most of it's as repetitive as reggae but some of the minor genres which flourish in Britain like Dubcore or Dubstep are amongst the most the most rythmically diverse and fascinating works of music ever written, I respect them. Maybe the vocalless way the music is made is what makes so much more listenable, no lyrics about Rastafarianism (I don't want to hear about religion on an album I bought), weed, hos or gay men.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #45 on:** 21 May 2008, 09:42 »

The point at which I started liking dubstep and grime was also roughly about the time I started taking speed, ecstacy and MDMA more regularly.

Coincidence? Possibly not.

Dimmukane · « **Reply #46 on:** 21 May 2008, 10:05 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 21 May 2008, 09:42

ecstacy and MDMA

Um...I'm fairly certain these are the same thing. At least in the states.

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #47 on:** 21 May 2008, 10:34 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 21 May 2008, 09:42

The point at which I started liking dubstep and grime was also roughly about the time I started taking speed, ecstacy and MDMA more regularly.

Coincidence? Possibly not.

That's the best argument for drugs I've ever heard.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #48 on:** 21 May 2008, 14:12 »

Quote from: Dimmukane on 21 May 2008, 10:05

Um...I'm fairly certain these are the same thing. At least in the states.

Ecstacy is the pills, MDMA is the stuff you bomb or put up your nose. E tends to be more variable in strength and can contain other drugs, particularly other amphetamines.

Dimmukane · « **Reply #49 on:** 21 May 2008, 15:04 »

The way I saw it (and everyone I know, at least), was that if it didn't have MDMA in it, it wasn't E. But I see where you're coming from.

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rofflesaurusrex

rofflesaurusrex

rofflesaurusrex

Mr. Mojo

Mr. Mojo

Mr. Mojo

rofflesaurusrex

Mr. Mojo

Mr. Mojo

The Viz

rofflesaurusrex

Red Peril