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Child Pornography or Art? Is there a line, if so where?
Jimmy the Squid:
As far as my "Not a great decision" comment goes, I simply mean that I am not that surprised about certain members of the public's reaction to the exhibition.
However I was surprised by the headline "Victory for decency as Child Porn exhibit is shut down." Then I saw it was in the Telegraph and I merely smiled.
IronOxide:
The question here is how do you draw the line between nude photography and child pornography? At what point does any photography turn into porn? The fact of the matter is that nobody can draw a solid line. Perhaps when dealing with a matter that can be so potentially damaging, we shouldn't leave it up to chance. Would it be better to have a blanket ban on nude photos of children, or to leave it to the possibly widely differentiating opinions of different judges to decide what is pornography and what are tasteful nudes?
It would be great if there were an indicator that could distinguish pornography from nudes, but as long as some people have different opinions on what is pornography, it may actually be more legally responsible to not leave the definition up to individual prosecutors and judges that would perhaps leave real child exploitation alone and arrest an artist who has done nothing wrong.
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: Elizzybeth on 24 May 2008, 17:31 ---Thus, more accurately, "artifice" is derived from the word "art."
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Ars facere. It's latin. Neither is really derived from the other but there's such a thing as being pithy. Ars means 'Method or technique', facere is the infinitive form of facio, meaning to do, to make, to cause or to bring about. So an art is a method or technique, 'state of the art'. The OED lists 16 definitions for the word art, including "Skill in doing anything as a result of knowledge and practice" and "Human skill as an agent, human workmanship, opposed to nature", to pick one definition purely to support your own viewpoint is rather circumventing the issue. Besides which, you are wrong. Photography is art. A childs drawing is art. A novelty coffee mug is art. Only someone who has been living under a rock as with regards everything that has happened in the field of art over the last century could possibly think otherwise.
Tom:
Therefore, being able to keep a good poker face is an artform but not "art" in the oils, wax, synthetic and canvas way.
RedLion:
--- Quote from: people ---He wants people to be dead!
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No, I wasn't actually insinuating that people who have been raped/molested should die, or that their lives or meaningless. You're right tommy, I didn't say it right at all. What I was trying to say is that that person will never lead a "normal" life (i.e., one not influenced by the consuming pain of that experience,) particularly if it happens as a young child. Sometimes, it's as if the perpetrator did kill the victim--but only in spirit, in mind, leaving the body alive. What chance do they have? That's an existence that, in some ways, is no better than death.
I hope that clarifies somewhat.
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