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Child Pornography or Art? Is there a line, if so where?
gardenhead_:
--- Quote from: axerton on 24 May 2008, 07:12 ---
Have you ever met anyone who was molested as a child, I have and in all honesty she would have been better off dead.
Personally I'm dead against any form of child nudity pictures being on public display, because while most of us look at it and think 'well it's just (bad) art' there are a few people who are turned on by it, and while it starts out as just looking at pictures for some of those few, pictures will not be enough so they'll go out looking for the real thing.
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This is ridiculous. Should we ban fast food because some people eat too much and get fat? Should we ban cars because some people might crash? Why should a few socially dysfunctional people ruin it for the rest of society?
axerton:
You do realise you've just compared people getting fat to children being raped, don't you?
I repeat, if images of child nudity were banned from public display what would we, as a society, lose? A few pieces of art, and some artist have to do a bit more thinking than "Child nudity = controversy. Controversy = money. therefore child nudity = money." and even if the artist isn't just aiming for the controversy dollar, if all he or she can come up with in terms of art is a few pictures of naked children, then maybe they should reconsider their career choice.
Spluff:
--- Quote from: axerton on 25 May 2008, 01:47 ---You do realise you've just compared people getting fat to children being raped, don't you?
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The comparison was valid. You're just looking to attack his argument and dramatize it all - he did not, at any point, say that 'being fat is equivalent to being raped!'.
--- Quote from: axerton on 25 May 2008, 01:47 ---I repeat, if images of child nudity were banned from public display what would we, as a society, lose?
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Freedom of expression? The knowledge that you've got a right to express yourself in the way you see fit without getting sued? Australia has already taken away a HUGE amount of our rights (workplace rights & freedom of speech, just to name a few) and I'm going to fight for whatever rights we still have.
gardenhead_:
--- Quote from: axerton on 25 May 2008, 01:47 ---You do realise you've just compared people getting fat to children being raped, don't you?
I repeat, if images of child nudity were banned from public display what would we, as a society, lose? A few pieces of art, and some artist have to do a bit more thinking than "Child nudity = controversy. Controversy = money. therefore child nudity = money." and even if the artist isn't just aiming for the controversy dollar, if all he or she can come up with in terms of art is a few pictures of naked children, then maybe they should reconsider their career choice.
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art is subjective. just because you think this isn't art doesn't mean other people don't. and if other people find some form of beauty or meaning in it that isn't sexual or perverted or deviant, who are you/the lawmakers to take that away from them because you can't comprehend that?
I'm with Spluff on defending our rights in Australia too; the government is trying to censor the fucking internet.
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: axerton on 25 May 2008, 01:47 ---what would we, as a society, lose?
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Our freedom, one step at a time. It's happened before, and it will probably happen again as we show only a moderate tendency to learn from the past.
Paul
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