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[Caspian]

Lobster was also a poverty food, until it became almost extinct due to the fact that the slaves were just lovin' it so damn much. Prices for it went up and voila! New fancy food.

[Bowers]

crispy duck wraps

fuck yeah

[mfpole]

Paella is another case of those, sooooo good, maybe my favorite dish. Duck is one of my favorite foods. Its just so good in so many ways. I'm not the biggest on chicken fried, because I have that basically everyday at school, but Cornish Game Hens are terrific though.

[a pack of wolves]

Little Tokyo in Leeds does an amazing mock duck in mango sauce bento box. If the real thing is as good as the fake then it's a thoroughly edible bird.

[KharBevNor]

The sauce is called Hoi Sin.

[a pack of wolves]

No, that's Chinese. This was different (I think). Definitely not called hoi sin at any rate.

[Sox]

since trying it for the first time little over a week ago, duck has become my favourite food. It's a pretty expensive habit to get into though, it might be cheaper to smoke instead.

[Divide by Zero]

Cheaper to smoke what, exactly?

[Sox]

Cigarettes.

[Divide by Zero]

I figured, but I wasn't sure.

What's the cost of a pack up to where you are? The taxes just keep going up and up in New York where I am. I'm so glad I don't smoke.

[Sox]

About £5 for a carton of 20, £3 for a carton of 10.

[Divide by Zero]

I'd ask what that is in dollars, but with the exchange rates being what they are, that's pointless.

[Jackie Blue]

Anyone who smokes tobacco and doesn't roll their own is an idiot.  Fact.

Good rolling tobacco is massively cheaper than buying manufactured cigarettes.  In the US, good rolling tobacco - fresh Amsterdam or London Shag, or even pre-packaged Bali Shag, is about $3-$4 for a half ounce.  That's in the neighborhood of 50 cigarettes worth for less than the price of one pack of 20 manufactured.

Additionally, good rolling tobacco has far less in the way of additives, it is actually tobacco whereas most cigarettes are chips of pressed tobacco dust dried and crumbled up, it is fairly high in nicotine so you smoke less to get the same effect, and on and on...

Seriously, people.

[Orbert]

Anyone who smokes tobacco and doesn't roll their own is an idiot.  Fact.

No, opinion.

There are people for whom cost is not an issue, or is overriden by the convenience factor.  Additives are moot; you're intentionally ingesting carcinogens.  You could argue that it's "more harmful" but that's about it, and again the convenience factor still wins most cases.

[Thrillho]

Additionally, good rolling tobacco has far less in the way of additives.

Yeah, you wouldn't want to risk your health, now, wouldja? 

[Mr. Mojo]

Holy fucking shit, i just read through this thread and i think I'm officially more dumb now. Way to derail this shit ultimately. Actually, anyone who can derail this thread this much deserves a tip of the hat.

[Jackie Blue]

There are people for whom cost is not an issue, or is overriden by the convenience factor.

Yes.  I call them "rich twats".

Additives are moot; you're intentionally ingesting carcinogens.

Oh, I see.  So by that logic if I'm going to drink alcohol at all I might as well drink a liter of vodka every single day.  Makes perfect sense.

[KharBevNor]

Additives are moot; you're intentionally ingesting carcinogens. 

It's like the difference between drinking white cider and real ale. I mean, you're intentionally poisoning yourself! Why should you care about quality?

Rollies are cheaper, easier on the throat, less full of sulphur and tar, taste better, smell better, stain the teeth, lips and hands less, don't burn down on their own, and yeah seriously why would you smoke straights?

[Orbert]

Because you prefer them.

[KharBevNor]

Do you take one of your pack of lucky strikes whenever you get a new one, and turn it upside down relative to the others in the pack and have that as your 'lucky cigarette'?

Because that is a fairly obnoxious habit.

[sean]

@ Khar
I never got why people did that. Is that the only reason? Because that is a dumb reason.

Also Jens, fight you and your country for still having Luckies. Those are damn good.

[Sox]

Yes.  I call them "rich twats".

I'd like to take issue with this statement! Most people I know who smoke cigarettes can't afford to eat.

[Jackie Blue]

Oh, then they're just idiots.

Also fact: smoking makes you look cool.  You cannot deny this.  It's basically the only valid reason to smoke, actually.

[sean]

OiC: You seriously don't have Luckies any more? I thought that was like one of the big established ones?

I have not see Luckies on this side of the Atlantic in ages. I think they were discontinued over here or something like that.

[Jackie Blue]

Where are we talking about?  They still sell filtered and non-filtered Lucky Strikes in America.

I always found it odd when people say that nicotine, a powerful stimulant, calms them down.  I've smoked for 13 years and the first cigarette of any day still makes me jittery.

Though, I basically only smoke when I drink and am in public.  Sometimes that's every night for 5 days, sometimes that means I don't smoke for a week at a time.  I never got the hang of being addicted to the point of physical craving.

[sean]

Where are we talking about?  They still sell filtered and non-filtered Lucky Strikes in America.

I may have to just look harder then because I do not see Lucky Strikes here anymore. Odd.

[Jackie Blue]

Lucky Strikes can be hard to find.  I'm not sure why, because up until 5 years ago or so they were everywhere (before I rolled my own, when cigarettes were still cheap, I smoked unfiltered Luckies or Pall Malls).

Actually it seems like right around when they first made filtered Luckies available in the US is when they became hard to find.

Also: Filtered Luckies and Pall Malls are shit even by normal cigarette standards.

@tommy: Perhaps I should say it's the only valid reason to START smoking.  You can't enjoy something you've never tried.  That's one reason I tell people to never try Ecstasy.

[RobbieOC]

It's like coffee calming people down, I guess. It kind of has that effect on me. In fact, sometimes the only way I can get to sleep is to have a nice hot cuppa.

Are we done talking about duck? The first time I had some, it was for free at a Chinese restaurant 'round hereabouts, because the owner was a really cool guy and almost definitely in the Chinese mafia (based simply on his very very strange behaviour) and had a gay crush on my cousin, so he gave us free food all the time. Good stuff. Then I had it in Beijing, and it was even better.

[Jackie Blue]

Apparently I look a lot like Spider Jerusalem, according to an ex.  She's always bugging me to read that.  I still haven't.  Is it really that good?  Not that I don't trust her taste.  But, well, she is the person who showed me 4chan.

[Mr. Mojo]

4chan is the single worst thing to ever come onto the internet.

[Scandanavian War Machine]

okay, i've never been to 4chan and admittedly, don't really know what it's all about but it doesn't like it's all bad:

Around midnight on September 11, 2007, a student posted photographs of mock-pipe bombs and another photograph of him holding them whilst saying he would blow up his high school at 9:11 a.m. on Sept. 11. People on 4chan helped track him down by finding the perpetrator's father's name in the Exif data of a photograph he took, and contacted the police. He was arrested before school began that day.

that's pretty impressive.

[Jackie Blue]

4chan is the single worst thing to ever come onto the internet.

Eh, I think there is much worse, honestly.

OK, not that much worse.

[Mr. Mojo]

ugh maybe it's just the random or "/b/" part of 4chan. The guys on that part of it kept calling this one girl until it got to the point where she started crying every night. one of her friends goes on the random part of 4chan and tells them they respond "The fact that your friend cries herself to sleep everynight makes our dicks hard"

[WriterofAllWrongs]

4chan is the single worst thing to ever come onto the internet.

O RLY?

[michaelicious]

Smoking only makes you look cool if you put them out on your tongue.

[ViolentDove]

since trying it for the first time little over a week ago, duck has become my favourite food. It's a pretty expensive habit to get into though, it might be cheaper to smoke instead.

Try and find a chinese bbq/butcher, it's the cheapest way to get good duck. They'll have rows and rows of bbq'ed ducks hanging from the roof, also sides of pork. You can get a half duck cut up with a cleaver and drizzled with mystery sauce for pretty cheap, usually.

[Divide by Zero]

Smoking only makes you look cool if you put them out on your tongue.

Or in the palm of your hand.

And while the question of whether or not 4chan is the single worst thing to come onto the Internet is a debate of its own, one thing's for certain: It certainly did come on the Internet. All over the Internet. And then it told the Internet that the Internet enjoyed it.

I'll stop now.

[KickThatBathProf]

And the Internet so loved the world that It gave Its only 4chan...

[Caspian]

One time I put a cigarette out with the palm of my hand. I was drunk, and yes, there was some epic regret. I still have a scar.

I imagine it looked damn cool, though.

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[sean]

One time I put a cigarette out with the palm of my hand. I was drunk, and yes, there was some epic regret. I still have a scar.

I have a friend who has cigarette burns on the top of each of his hands, near the wrist. He did it on purpose.

He is a fucking moron.

[KharBevNor]

4chan is the single worst thing to ever come onto the internet.

Pussy.

[Catacombs]

4chan is the single worst thing to ever come onto the internet.

I'm pretty sure "blood show" is the worst thing.  Ever.  Not kidding.


*Disclaimer: do not go here.  I'd never have known about it if a friend of mine hadn't found it.  Terrible idea =/

[Orbert]

One time I put a cigarette out with the palm of my hand. I was drunk, and yes, there was some epic regret. I still have a scar.

At a party one time, a friend of mine asked me to pass him an ashtray to put out his cigarette.  I had just opened a beer and still had the cap in my hand, so I cupped my hand with the cap in it, and said "Here, just put it out in my hand."  He glanced over, understood immediately, and squished out the smoke.  No one else could see the bottle cap, and I just emptied my hand into a nearby ashtray which already had plenty of butts and more than a few bottlecaps in it.  It's surprising how people react to something like that.  I was going for exactly the effect you got, only, you know, without the pain part.

[Thrillho]

Apparently I look a lot like Spider Jerusalem, according to an ex.

Marry me.

[Nodaisho]

Yeah, smoking does look cool, don't know why, though. It might be the intentional self-destruction, and the devil-may-care attitude that it suggests. Or maybe it is just because you are holding fire in your mouth. If likelihood of getting cancer/addiction from smoking is hereditary, I would probably be fine, but I don't really feel like risking it. I would be interested in finding out what factors change the damage that smoking does to you, there are probably foods that help from the nutrients they give, other habits that strengthen the lungs to counteract the smoking, I would think someone has done studies by now.

[MadassAlex]

ugh maybe it's just the random or "/b/" part of 4chan. The guys on that part of it kept calling this one girl until it got to the point where she started crying every night. one of her friends goes on the random part of 4chan and tells them they respond "The fact that your friend cries herself to sleep everynight makes our dicks hard"

4chan never harasses someone for no reason. I'm not exactly condoning harassment but she must have done some seriously stupid shit to earn their mocking wrath.

[Sox]

Try and find a chinese bbq/butcher, it's the cheapest way to get good duck. They'll have rows and rows of bbq'ed ducks hanging from the roof, also sides of pork. You can get a half duck cut up with a cleaver and drizzled with mystery sauce for pretty cheap, usually.

Why can't the rest of you be this useful?

[Divide by Zero]

Yeah, smoking does look cool, don't know why, though.

Half a century's worth of advertising campaigns with obscene amounts of money spent on making them look that way?

Of course, lighting the cigarette is what really looks cool. More so than smoking it does. If you read Neil Gaiman's Sandman series, you'll notice that Desire spends a lot more time lighting cigarettes than smoking them.

I plan on someday soon putting together a special herb mixture and rolling my own from that. I bounce around ideas in my head for what I'll put in it--Sweetgrass, damiana, vanilla bean powder... I just want the look and a sweet smell that's also an aphrodesiac for those who inhale it. I don't want tobacco.

[Albatron]

I would think inhaling all that crap can't be much better for you, you might as well smoke tobacco or weed and actually get something for the damage.

oh yeah, Ive never had duck, but turkey sucks. I hate it, even on thanksgiving, i eat pasta, even if i have to cook it myself. I can't understand turkey eaters. Its the worst bird to eat, well thats normally eaten anyway, i imagine theres fouler fowl out there.

[Nodaisho]

divide by zero (need to figure out a nickname for that, maybe /0?) has a point there, it is the lighting that looks badass, which also explains why zippos add more to the badass factor than cheapo bics. Course, I wouldn't call Desire a badass.

Actually, I think it is solely the fire, the lighting is coolest because that is when the most fire is involved. That seem right to everyone else?