Topic: So basically Fleetwood Mac were (Read 11120 times)

Jackie Blue · « **on:** 24 Jun 2008, 00:24 »

fucking awesome.

Really, people.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #1 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 00:42 »

Jesus Christ yes they were. There are days where the only thing i care is "Rumours VS Tusk"

look out! Ninjas! · « **Reply #2 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 00:51 »

Hell yeah. Anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #3 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 00:54 »

That reminds me, I never got around to buying Camper Van Beethoven's complete cover of Tusk. I think I shall search thee webbernets for it right...

...

...

...after I get A LITTLE MORE STONED DUDE.

Also: Fuck you, Courtney Love

parm · « **Reply #4 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 01:01 »

I approve of Fleetwood Mac, and I approve of this thread.

Kai · « **Reply #5 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 02:36 »

Fleetwood Mac are basically the shit.

Except for the parts where they were a shitty blues band.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #6 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 03:00 »

I'll admit they had some bad material, for sure. Sometimes awesome bands turn into bad bands (see: Jefferson Airplane vs. Jefferson Starship).

ledhendrix · « **Reply #7 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 05:24 »

I pretty much only like Fleetwood Mac's stuff with Peter Green in the band. Oh Well is such an amazing song and great fun to play on the guitar as well.

dalconnsuch · « **Reply #8 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 07:26 »

i love flleetwood mac

i hate stevie nicks

am i insane?

Shadows Collide · « **Reply #9 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 07:44 »

Wow, really? No one has an alternate opinion on this band? They did "Go your own way"! All I associate them with is Time Life commercials, ugly beards and coke. Cheesy cheese filled with cheese.

But that's cool if you like them!

McTaggart · « **Reply #10 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 08:14 »

I used to think so too, until a manager at an old job started to put on Rumours all the time when we were closing. That album started to really grow on me.

Albatron · « **Reply #11 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 08:18 »

enh they're not bad and I've definitely rocked out to them, but when i want classic rock, they're low on the list.

Misereatur · « **Reply #12 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 11:54 »

Quote from: Kai on 24 Jun 2008, 02:36

Fleetwood Mac are basically the shit.

Except for the parts where they were a shitty blues band.

Orbert · « **Reply #13 on:** 24 Jun 2008, 13:43 »

But they weren't a shitty blues band. They were a pretty damned good blues band. Then they turned into a shitty pop band, then they turned into a pretty damned good pop band (Rumours era), then they got shitty again.

They've been around a lot longer and gone through more changes than most people realize because they struck gold with Rumours and sold like 30 bazillion copies, but as much as I like that version of the band, the earlier incarnations produced some more interesting music.

2HourHiatus · « **Reply #14 on:** 27 Jun 2008, 11:50 »

Fleetwood Mac are so precise. Everything is so beautifully in perfect time. Not only is the music good, but they had some very good production.

Orbert · « **Reply #15 on:** 27 Jun 2008, 13:07 »

True! This is what happens when the drummer and bassist are the band leaders and best friends. Your band is tight!

KharBevNor · « **Reply #16 on:** 27 Jun 2008, 18:25 »

100% dad rock.

Orbert · « **Reply #17 on:** 27 Jun 2008, 19:39 »

Yeah, because if old people are playing it, it can't be any good.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #18 on:** 27 Jun 2008, 20:16 »

dad. rock.

onefineday · « **Reply #19 on:** 27 Jun 2008, 20:22 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 27 Jun 2008, 20:16

dad. rock.

lol that pretty much sums it up

est · « **Reply #20 on:** 27 Jun 2008, 22:49 »

I'm not sure if Khar meant it to have negative connotations, but I don't necessarily think it should.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #21 on:** 27 Jun 2008, 22:54 »

It is Dad Rock, i guess. Just like Zeppelin and Black Sabbath and The Beatles and The Stones.

pwhodges · « **Reply #22 on:** 28 Jun 2008, 00:07 »

Indeed. Dads are people too.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #23 on:** 28 Jun 2008, 04:15 »

I'm not making any value judgements at all, just saying that if you look up 'Dad Rock' in the dictionary there's just a picture of Fleetwood Mac.

pwhodges · « **Reply #24 on:** 28 Jun 2008, 10:42 »

"Even the dads are getting younger these days", grumble, grumble.

Johnny C · « **Reply #25 on:** 28 Jun 2008, 10:47 »

Quote from: tommydski on 28 Jun 2008, 08:27

I believe they recently replaced it with a picture of Wilco.

Who doesn't wish Nels Cline or Glenn Kotche was their dad?

KharBevNor · « **Reply #26 on:** 28 Jun 2008, 13:42 »

What I am saying is if you assembled any random group of dads they would probably decide to llisten to Fleetwood Mac, that being their rock.

Orbert · « **Reply #27 on:** 29 Jun 2008, 09:16 »

That's just plain wrong. You might find a few dads that are cool enough to listen to early Fleetwood Mac, the blues version, but once the Buckingham-Nicks version became popular, males stopped listening to them, and that's the version of the band that most people think of, including dads. Is "mom rock" a term? Because later Fleetwood Mac would be mom rock.

No version of Fleetwood Mac was ever in the same league as The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, or Led Zeppelin, though.

Mister Arkadin · « **Reply #28 on:** 29 Jun 2008, 15:16 »

early fleetwood mac was good.
stevie nicks ruined it.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #29 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 02:26 »

Quote from: Orbert on 29 Jun 2008, 09:16

once the Buckingham-Nicks version became popular, males stopped listening to them

Um. No.

Every male-oriented classic rock radio station in America plays that-era material literally every day, at least twice.

Johnny C · « **Reply #30 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 08:42 »

Yeah, because women are a huge demographic.

Orbert · « **Reply #31 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 10:58 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 30 Jun 2008, 02:26

Quote from: Orbert on 29 Jun 2008, 09:16
once the Buckingham-Nicks version became popular, males stopped listening to them

Um. No.

Every male-oriented classic rock radio station in America plays that-era material literally every day, at least twice.

What the hell is a "male-oriented classic rock" station? How common is it to have two classic rock stations in the same market, one for the guys and one for the girls?

Classic rock stations play the hell out of Buckingham-Nicks era Fleetwood Mac, because it's classic rock. But if guys ever played it, it was in the presence of girls whose panties they were trying to remove. I have never thought of it as "male-oriented classic rock" and neither have any of the guys I grew up with. And if there was such a thing as a "male-oriented classic rock station" they sure as hell would not play Buckingham-Nicks era Fleetwood Mac.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #32 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 11:36 »

is that a veiled "women are inherently superior to men" argument?

if so, i'd be inclined to agree on that point.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #33 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 11:52 »

Quote from: Johnny C on 30 Jun 2008, 08:42

Yeah, because women are a huge demographic.

OK all of you who don't live in the Bible Belt of America, out of this discussion. If you heard the classic rock stations here you would know within 30 minutes that basically every song on it is aimed at 30-50 year old men who are listening to it at work or while driving around. I'm not gonna even argue this point with someone who lives in fucking Canada.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #34 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 12:07 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 28 Jun 2008, 13:42

What I am saying is if you assembled any random group of dads they would probably decide to llisten to Fleetwood Mac, that being their rock.

Honestly, I would think Zeppelin, Skynyrd, or Doobie Brothers would be more likely. Maybe CCR or ZZ top as well. Might just be the dads I know, though. And of course, you are in England, where as I am in Colorado.

pwhodges · « **Reply #35 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 12:57 »

Well, my older son is a dad (like, he's 40ish and has five kids). Before he left home he listened to Fleetwood Mac, along with ZZ Top, Dire Straits, Def Leppard, Led Zeppelin, Marillion, and more I don't recall. Mind you, I've no idea if he does now; as he's in the music business (he fits out studios and records gigs as a freelance), he's probably picked up plenty of newer acts along the way.

Johnny C · « **Reply #36 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 15:01 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 30 Jun 2008, 11:52

OK all of you who don't live in the Bible Belt of America, out of this discussion.

What about those of us who live in the Bible Belt of Canada?

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #37 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 19:49 »

Imagine the most redneck part of Canada.

Now imagine it being 100 times more redneck.

That's what 2/3 of America is like, basically.

Johnny C · « **Reply #38 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 21:14 »

I don't understand your argument, I genuinely don't. If dudes like that music, then they'll enjoy it, but a lot of middle-aged women enjoy the musical stylings of Stevie Nicks. A radio station geared towards dudes will play that Fleetwood Mac because it brings in a slightly different demographic than the usual. who might stick around because they also, say dug Aerosmith at one point.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #39 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 21:25 »

OK see this is where your not having an understanding of the area is showing.

These classic rock stations play songs that will attract the kind of people who will spend money on the station's advertisers.

The American South is still a place where the norm is that a man makes the money and spends the money and the woman stays home and raises kids. This is especially true of the kind of people who listen to Classic Rock.

Therefore the stations have DJs that appeal to men - either sexists male DJs or flirtatious female DJs. Therefore they play songs that appeal to men primarily - and sure, there are lots of women here who like the music too but they're not being targeted by these stations because the ads are all for trucks, lawn equipment and so forth.

Spluff · « **Reply #40 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 21:27 »

What zerodrone is trying to say, is that if you listen to classic rock you are a sexist.

Ballard · « **Reply #41 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 21:29 »

ITT: Canada is claimed to be less redneck than the United States.

Johnny C · « **Reply #42 on:** 30 Jun 2008, 23:27 »

Quote from: Ballard on 30 Jun 2008, 21:29

ITT: Canada is scientifically proven to be less redneck than the United States.

Ballard · « **Reply #43 on:** 01 Jul 2008, 01:15 »

Nice one, Barry.

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