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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #50 on: 13 Jul 2008, 20:56 »

The first Hellboy movie was just okay, and in itself was not incentive to see a second one, but then again it is friggin' Hellboy. Plus, coming off of Pan's Labyrinth, everyone had pretty high hopes for this'n, as can be seen by the discussion in the beginning of the thread.  I had a pretty great time, and although it certainly didn't totally bowl me over as a film (of course, the art direction and the creatures were breathtaking and amazing) I think it was well worth my cash.

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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #51 on: 13 Jul 2008, 21:24 »

I'm seeing this on thursday with an old friend.  He's paying because I have 5.50 in quarters.  The movie looks FUN, I would only compare the artwork and cinematography with Pan's Labyrinth, not the story or the characters.  I have a feeling that this movie is going to be much more fun than the first, with the exception of Abe....stupid Niles Crane.
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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #52 on: 14 Jul 2008, 03:23 »

Doug Jones voices Abe in this one^
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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #53 on: 14 Jul 2008, 06:44 »

He actually sounds a lot like he did in the first one, with a slightly less British accent.
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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #54 on: 14 Jul 2008, 12:49 »

I LOVED it, guys. I honestly do not understand all the bitching. When it was cheesy, it was the kind of cheese that I thoroughly enjoy, and I loved the sense of depth that the underlying mythology gave it. All of the flaws - acting, voicing, whatever - were piddling minor compared to the feeling of complete satisfaction I had from the movie as a whole. I'm not familiar with the comics, but as movies, Hellboy and this sequel have really carved out a niche for themselves; there really isn't a comparison to be made with other comic/superhero movies (at least, not the one's I've seen).

Fuck all y'all haters; this movie is excellent.
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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #55 on: 16 Jul 2008, 00:01 »

I thought it was really great.
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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #56 on: 16 Jul 2008, 00:03 »

I too am confused by the bitching, I saw it last night and JESUS FUCK it was the most visually fantastical film I've seen since, I don't know, City of Lost Children probably.  I honestly didn't like Pan's Labyrinth very much, but this was just... wow.

Doug Jones though, I really think he did a pretty shitty job, I really missed David Hyde Pierce.

I thought the elf chick was pretty rad.  And the elf dude, man, he was like Sephiroth if Sephiroth weren't an overrated mama's boy.

Oddly though I didn't really laugh.  The comedy was good, but it didn't actually make me LOL like the first one did.

The giant Cthulhu elemental thing was... pretty fucking rad to put it mildly.

What else... better choreographed martial arts fighting than even Matrix Revolutions, though not as much of it, obv.

I am not sorry I paid the counter dude my six bucks instead of just walking into the theater, because I totally could have because he wasn't looking and obviously didn't give a shit anyway (I got there right as the trailers were ending so I was the only person there other than him).

Oh and Kraus was pretty awesome, did not guess it was McFarlane.

If they do a third (and I'm sure they will) they are seriously going to have a hard time making it anywhere near as good, unless they just bring Del Toro on board again.

Though having watched Planet Terror like three times this week I think Rodriguez would do a good job.
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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #57 on: 16 Jul 2008, 00:20 »

I just saw it today and I can honestly say that I thought it was pretty damn amazing.  However i did absolutely hate the beginning with "kid" Hellboy.  Everything else was made and there were only a few things that connected it to the first one. 

I didn't miss Niles as much as I thought I would, Doug Jones kept the same staccatto pacing and it was nice. There were points were the entire theatre was laughing and I was laughing too which was really nice.  It definitely has a nice feel to it.  I'm not sure if it will make a good transition to small screen though.
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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #58 on: 16 Jul 2008, 12:32 »

If they do a third (and I'm sure they will) they are seriously going to have a hard time making it anywhere near as good, unless they just bring Del Toro on board again.

Though having watched Planet Terror like three times this week I think Rodriguez would do a good job.

I don't know if it will play big to an extent that the studio will wrest it from Del Toro's hands (I mean, come on, I thought the draw of Hellboy was that it was a Del Toro project). It's sort of his at this point (lots consider it a "studio movie" paying the bills between personal projects, but he seemed pretty invested in this one) and I'd bet Mike Mignola is a big Guillermo partisan by now.
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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #59 on: 17 Jul 2008, 08:43 »

Seriously disappointed by this. 

*Spoilers*
The plot made no fucking sense.  The elf chick didn't exactly tug on my hearstrings with the whole "My psychopathic brother knows what I know but sure take me to your underground layer so that I can endanger your lives" thing.  Also if she'd been willing to part with that fucking crown piece a little earlier a lot of mayhem could have been avoided.  Abe's sudden falling in love was unconvincing.  The dialog in the romance scenes was painful and stilted.  The cheese filled catchphrases ("You woke up the baby") stank.  The convenient coincidences that moved the plot forward were annoying.  Krauss was supposed to be a genius and his plan at the end was "Let's travel half-way across the world and reason with the psychopathic elf prince. 
*End Spoilers*

Maybe I would have expected this if I'd read the novels, but I can't help but feel that this movie brought nothing new to the table.  The secret agency dealing with menaces that need to be concealed from society at large we got in Men In Black.  The misunderstood heroes hated by society despite their altruism and good looks we got in X-Men.  The main character having to make a decision between good and evil we got in more movies I can conveniently count, including the Nightwatch series.  And the crazy ass monsters with weirdly placed eyes we got in Pan's Labyrinth.  This could have been a great movie if the dialog had been well written and the plot engaging, but as it was it left me uninterested in seeing the inevitable sequel.  And I was a huge fan of the first movie.
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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #60 on: 17 Jul 2008, 16:42 »

*Spoilers*
The plot made no fucking sense.  The elf chick didn't exactly tug on my hearstrings with the whole "My psychopathic brother knows what I know but sure take me to your underground layer so that I can endanger your lives" thing.  Also if she'd been willing to part with that fucking crown piece a little earlier a lot of mayhem could have been avoided.  Abe's sudden falling in love was unconvincing.  The dialog in the romance scenes was painful and stilted.  The cheese filled catchphrases ("You woke up the baby") stank.  The convenient coincidences that moved the plot forward were annoying.  Krauss was supposed to be a genius and his plan at the end was "Let's travel half-way across the world and reason with the psychopathic elf prince. 
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No no, you're misremembering. Krauss' plan was to face the prince sans crown / golden army and beat him. Abe didn't tell anyone that he had the third piece of the crown when they left.
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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #61 on: 25 Jul 2008, 12:32 »

*Spoilers*
The plot made no fucking sense.  The elf chick didn't exactly tug on my hearstrings with the whole "My psychopathic brother knows what I know but sure take me to your underground layer so that I can endanger your lives" thing.  Also if she'd been willing to part with that fucking crown piece a little earlier a lot of mayhem could have been avoided.  Abe's sudden falling in love was unconvincing.  The dialog in the romance scenes was painful and stilted.  The cheese filled catchphrases ("You woke up the baby") stank.  The convenient coincidences that moved the plot forward were annoying.  Krauss was supposed to be a genius and his plan at the end was "Let's travel half-way across the world and reason with the psychopathic elf prince. 
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No no, you're misremembering. Krauss' plan was to face the prince sans crown / golden army and beat him. Abe didn't tell anyone that he had the third piece of the crown when they left.

I don't they were planning on beating him.  Remember that Hellboy was dying from the spear wound and it appeared that they believed his only chance was to get the Prince guy to take mercy and remove the spear.  It's not like they knew that there was an angel of death waiting to bail Hellboy's ass out of spearpoint death who just happened to be hanging out in the same joint where the Prince was waiting to unleash the end of the world.
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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #62 on: 26 Jul 2008, 23:46 »

Abe's sudden falling in love was unconvincing.

There's a word for it you know.
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Re: Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
« Reply #63 on: 31 Aug 2008, 21:16 »

I just saw this last night (it only came out on Thursday here) and honestly I liked it. I am not under any misguided impressions that the film was great but all in all I enjoyed it and, echoing the sentiments of this thread so far that is because the art direction (and the action) was basically flawless. It was the rest of this film that let it down. If you haven't seen it yet don't read the rest of my post, it has minor spoilers.



The opening scene with the Young Hellboy should have been left out. I loved the little CGI animation thing they did for the prologue but they could have just had John Hurt doing a voiceover over that thing. The kid that played Hellboy couldn't act for shit and it just didn't look right. They obviously just wanted to have John Hurt in it again and as I said, they would have been better off with just a voiceover and the animation.

The acting was about on-par with the first one, however the woman who played Princess Nuala cannot act. She looked great but I just didn't believe the performance at all. Contrast that against the dude who played Prince Nuada and man, I could totally believe that he was an elven prince. Dude totally sold it.
Doug Jones was good, I did notice the change in the voice but he still played it well so I was ok with it. Jeffrey Tambor gave me the shits though. In the first film he was a capable guy, officious and blustering, yeah but he knew how to talk to the press and how to cover stuff up. In this one he was a bumbling idiot and it just didn't work. The film tried too hard to be a comedy and ballsed it all up in the process.

Also, what the fuck was with the closing shot? That fucking freeze on Hellboy's shocked face was just waay too fucking cheesey for the film, they could have just stuck with a fadeout. They should have just stuck with a fadeout.

All that said, the film looked amazing and I really enjoyed it. The dialogue wasn't any worse than the first one and the story was passable. The action was awesome and the art direction was exactly what I expect from Del Toro, including the myriad of vagina imagery. I will get it on DVD, it was good, but not in a good way.
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