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patriotism/nationalism
ViolentDove:
--- Quote from: fatty on 24 Jul 2008, 08:08 ---What do you say when people say 'Where are you from?'. I don't get that one...
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This question is a bit funny. In some places (Australia- probably others?) it's almost seen as borderline offensive, as there is an assumption that the person asking the question is making the assumption that "you're not from here", and that this is a bad thing.
But in other places, some countries in Europe for example, it's pretty much the second most frequently asked question, more like friendly small-talk. And not just to tourists- also asked by and to people from the same country.
Vendetagainst:
--- Quote from: Anyways on 24 Jul 2008, 15:39 ---You haven't got castles outside of Disneyland, dude. Try again.
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I don't think I'm seeing your point :|
StaedlerMars:
So, I've never lived in one country consistently, so maybe that's why i'm not nationalistic, or patriotic for that matter.
However, since I am Belgian, and Belgium does get given a lot of shit (most recent example is 'In Bruges') I do tend to stand up for Belgium, but this is more defensive than offensive. However, when I'm in Belgium I take the same attitude towards the US.
I don't feel at all attached to it though. I feel attached to the community I live in. In Belgium I feel like I'm from Ghent. In the US I feel like a New Yorker. I feel a lot more connected and proud of a place that I visit/see regularly. So I tend to associate myself with cities rather than countries . In my head this also makes more sense.
I've had this conversation recently with some people. In the modern world, it would probably make more sense to return to City States than to Nation States. Take a look at Singapore, or Hong Kong until recently. I'm sure there's a lot that can go wrong, but economically, it makes a lot more sense to have a global body of laws and let cities conduct their own business (however, I'm not an economist, so feel free to correct me here).
Oli:
I'm from a wee village on the west coast of Scotland and I go to university/spend virtually all my time in Glasgow. I feel a good connection to both these places, but I do not really give a shite about being Scottish. I really think that nationalism is, by definiton, divisionary. I am very much of the opinion that no matter where you are from you can either be a cunt or not a cunt, and I'll be glad to chat to you if you're not.
I also do not understand people that proudly exclaim that X was invented where they are from as if they had anything to do with it's invention whatsoever.
ViolentDove:
Fuck you*, an Australian invented the Goon Bag!
It fulfills multiple functions, being a dispenser of low-quality alcohol, a pillow, and a flotation device. It has also been noted for its use a decorative bauble.
*Not really, of course, I think you're lovely.
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