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parm:
I can't say as I'm particularly proud to be British, or proud of Britain at the moment. I do feel a small amount of pride in Europe and in being European, though.

Vendetagainst:
Urgh, ok.

I never asked to be American, being born here was not special. But my ancestors did choose to come here--From Poland, Italy, Britain, and all over the fucking place. And I exist because of outrageously improbable occurrences spread out over hundreds of years that slowly developed the relationships and culture that made me possible. I should take pride in my country because I am a product of it. I have been ashamed of my government more than once, but a country is led by its people and not its government. That a person should be obligated to be a nationalist is a ridiculous belief, but people SHOULD understand how deeply their culture has affected who they are. People should not be judged by where they are from and don't quote me as saying anything to the contrary, but there is a very real influence there.




And if I didn't live in Chicago I would be missing out on some seriously delicious food.

KharBevNor:
I feel a connection to the people and landscape and culture of where I was born (and have lived my whole life), but not to the country or flags or anything, as those are essentially meaningless and artificial constructs. I feel more patriotic, perhaps even nationalistic feelings, for the specific place where I have lived most my life, the Isle of Wight. I think perhaps if the Isle of Wight was its own country (and I think it should be) I would be far more patriotic. VECTIS FOR THE VECTIANS!

I have to say that I find nationalism in particular for places like America and Australia very absurd, unless you happen to be a native american or an aboriginie. I don't think I need to dip into that opinion anymore.

Vendetagainst:
I get what you're saying about The Native Americans and Aborigines and it's not a bad point, but I can't agree with it because (as I'm sure is also the case in Australia) we have deep roots despite being young countries.

inflatable_slide:
being a proud irish person is kinda sometrhing thats beaten into you, figuratively speaking of course. if youre not rpoud to be irish, its seen as being a bit backwards about going forwards like.

im from cork, which is a whole other story, id always say " im from cork" before saying im irish, and im not all that into this "irish by birth cork by the grace of god" shite... im only like that with all ireland finals in hurling and gaelic football and such... i get really riled up, its kinda embarrassing!

i dunno, i think it all depends on youre upbringing and exposure to this nationalism and patriotism stuff, much like other things in life!

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