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Dissy:

--- Quote from: jhocking on 26 Jul 2008, 06:18 ---I routinely see people spit in public and I always think it should be a fined offense, like littering. People who spit in public are probably the same people who throw trash out their car window. Sending someone to jail for it is over the top though.

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I will sometimes spit in public, but I would never litter.  There are reasons sometimes for spitting in public, for example, I have pretty bad asthma which requires me to cough and clear out the flem from my lungs, and I do not want that shit going back into my body, so I will spit it out.  I think spitting on other people should be a fined offense.

JediBendu:
The way some people spit here in the American South you would think it's encouraged. But hey, sometimes you just need to spit, man. But man, if a 87 year old man is banned from being sarcastic, then I'd be screwed over there in wacky old Britain.

snalin:
So, this is just an... excuse to skip the court and jail somebody? This is too easy to abuse. "This guy is writing political stuff in a paper that offends a lot of people. Therefore, it's Anti-Social Behavior, and must be stopped".

If you put a girl in jail for spitting, you either have an utopia that dosen't know what to do with it's jails, or a stupid government.

Johnny C:

--- Quote from: tommydski on 26 Jul 2008, 12:18 ---An NAO study from last year found that 93% of people who were issued an ASBO ceased to violate the terms after three interventions. If that was an accurate report, I think they can be considered an active deterrent.

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This is the statistic I was waiting to see, and I'm glad you provided it, Tommy. Obviously serving a teenager an ASBO does nothing to directly counter the culture of violence and lawlessness that is apparently surging amongst the youth of the UK, but hopefully it causes them to think about their actions and consider them more fully in the future.

pwhodges:

--- Quote from: Anyways on 26 Jul 2008, 04:17 ---I totally dug the "use your ears!" posters on the London Tube as well when I was there this summer. Don't be afraid to rat out your neighbour! He might be a terrorist!

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<sigh> I haven't been to London for quite a while, and haven't seen them.  But it really is hard to find the line between encouraging reporting something that might save loads of innocent lives, and promoting the kind of mistrust between neighbours that was most characteristically shown by life in the DDR.  The trouble is that increasing regulation encourages a reduction of thought, and when people reach the point of spending their lives reacting without thinking at all, then the society I would like to live in has gone out of the window.

And I would like to make it clear I DO NOT READ THE DAILY MAIL!  I read The Guardian mainly, and have been becoming more definitely left-wing all through my life.

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