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PizzaSHARK:
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--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 26 Nov 2008, 11:08 ---I just have my weapons and shield (and my fishing rod) on the side action bar, swapping ain't too hard. It doesn't need a macro.
You can't 'steal' a kill, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe that's because I do it lots. Consecration and Avengers Shield are excellent for mass tagging. But then, I am geared for AoE grinding, from my mithril shield spike to my naglering. My comment on warriors not being optimal for pvp was based on the fact that, in my experience, all the other melee classes tend to trash them one on one, and they can often only take casters if they get a good jump. This may balance out in the end-game, I used to play a warrior but only took it to about 40, but warriors were a hard proposition in PVP. Whereas in PVE warriors are fucking indispensible, because they are by far the best tanking class at managing threat. It seems to me, from my admittedly limited experience, that each tanking class is somewhat speciliased: Protadins for mass brawls, warriors for ye olde fashioned tank and spank, and feral druids for DPS races. Not sure what DK's are designed for, except being annoying. I agree totally with the fact that they need nerfing, and it's mainly just Death Grip. Even a two second interruptible cast would balance it. I don't mind about the pets, because they just go the same way as warlock pets: Holy Wrath, Exorcism, Avengers Shield, Hammer of Wrath. I looooove fighting undead and demons. Might be a bit different for other classes though.
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Oh, so you are a pally! Explains alot about your macro QQ ing because pallys without macros are like rogues without an offhand.
And warriors tank well, but so do druids, and in pvp warriors are back to being the fucking shiznit.
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When did we ever stop?
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: clockworkjames on 26 Nov 2008, 14:19 ---Oh, so you are a pally! Explains alot about your macro QQ ing because pallys without macros are like rogues without an offhand.
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What?
And if warriors are so good at PVP, why do I keep seeing them getting owned by pretty much every class.
PizzaSHARK:
Because you'll find that the vast majority of folks playing WoW either suck it, or aren't in a normal state of mind (as a guildie likes to say, "You can play this game sober?")
I don't claim to be anything better than average, but I literally kill greater than 93% of people I fight, both outdoors and in battlegrounds. I've killed people rocking full S4 while I had nothing better than full S2 - and they started the fight at full while I was at 65%. Part of it's not knowing what to do (warriors that don't disarm, shammies that don't use a shield, rogues that ambush instead of cheap shot or garrote. etc), part of it's bad luck (they get no crits, I basically autocrit), and part of it's bad reaction time (could be a clicker, may not be paying attention, may be stoned or drunk.)
As much as the e-peen stroking aspect of it sucks, I still look at arena stats to see how well a class is doing. If they're doing well in high-rated games (2200+) in all three brackets, then the class is probably very strong. Last I checked, almost every 5's team had a warrior, and many 3's and 2's did as well.
By the way, I'll post the macros I use if you want; all you'll need to do is copy+paste and change spell names around. Hopefully 3.0 didn't bring any major changes to macro syntax.
clockworkjames:
A warrior who is "not lazy" (Read: a stancedancer who uses trinkets and has macros for fear/CC etc) and knows how to play his class with good talents is going to fuck up pretty much any other class pretty fast. If my crits do what they should do I can maintain over 2kDPS which means I give you about 5-6 seconds tops. Failing that I charge into a big group of casters up the back SS/BS GG QQ.
Alex C:
Warriors are pretty good in pvp, but the limitations of being a melee class means when they do die, it's often fairly dramatically. Warriors can't really do anything useful without crossing into what often amounts to no man's land and some massed focus fire can take them out pretty quickly if they don't have team support like in an Arena or can catch people with their pants down like in a BG. Since many players don't bother being very careful in a BG, it's pretty easy finding warriors dying left and right.
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