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The country, not the state.
Leinad:
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--- Quote from: Leinad on 10 Aug 2008, 14:07 ---Can you imagine a European country attacking another?
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Yes!
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Gah, sorry, I have a wierd (and wrong) definition of European. Can you imagine, in today's world, a Northern/Western European country going to war with another? Like the classic France vs. Germany, even?
And RedLion: I really appreciate the analysis, but I feel terribly unlearned right now and can't comment very much.
nobo:
Photos from South Ossetia
I think the fact that South Ossentians greeted the Russians as liberators and heroes tells you there was something horribly wrong in the region before this war even started. I don't agree wit the amount of force Russia is using, but I don't think that Georgia is blame free here.
Patrick:
The friendly welcome could just be because they want independence and the Russians are giving it to them. The way things are going, though, it looks like they're going to give them the whole damn country.
Those photos scared the crap out of me, though. The whole thing looks so much like home that I want to cry just looking at it.
I would like to venture that if Ukraine DOES cut off their "Sup Russia, you can use our ports" deal early, if Russia does decide to be dicks and attack, it'll hopefully take a bit of their focus off of Georgia. And since both countries have been talking with NATO about joining up, I don't think NATO will be very happy with Russia if it's attacking both of it's prime candidates for invitation. Maybe then they can convince Russia that they can't just get away with that shit, and then Russia will fuck off.
Here's hoping the Russians stop being fuckbags and stop bombing Tbilisi. I want to see it intact if I ever visit.
RedLion:
I was kidding, Leinad.
And of course Georgia isn't blameless in this. Both sides have committed human rights abuses.
But it breaks my heart that America and Europe pretty much seemed to tell Georgia that they would protect them by definitively saying that Georgia would be part of NATO someday, and now they're leaving them out to dry. There's nothing the US or the EU could do at this point, but I'm sure the people of Georgia are feeling pretty damn betrayed right now.
negative creep:
--- Quote from: Patrick on 11 Aug 2008, 20:06 ---
--- Quote from: waterloosunset on 11 Aug 2008, 12:59 ---(snip snip, jokes about Germany helping swat Russia away)
More experience than anyone else...
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At getting their asses handed to them by cold weather, maybe...
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Nope, I think they pretty much learned that lesson. Fortunately too late, though.
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