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KharBevNor:
Wasn't the Abiogenic theory invented by the Soviets?
You know, the same dudes who had a hard on for Lysenkoism? And Japhetic theory?
Bullshit ideology driven pseudoscience ahoy!
StMonkey:
Let me start off by saying I'm not a big fan of global warming as caused by humans. I want it to be just a natural thing for the earth to go through. I really really do. From basic understanding of all the effects of it though, I have figured out the simple pros and cons of how to act.
If it is as I wish it, and there is not much humans can do to stop it and:
~I act as it is a bunch of baloney: Nothing happens, I keep on keepin on
~I act as if its real: I pay a few more dollars to shush the eeeeeeeevil liberaaaaaals and make life a little more convenient for myself(good gas mileage cars especially)
If global warming is in our hands to effect and:
~I act as if it is a bunch baloney: I do my part to doom the planet, I keep on keepin on
~I act as if its real: I do my part to save the planet, and get a sweet car
I personally don't enjoy the thought of global warming, and on a side note, I thought some of those cartoons were at least amusing, if not exactly uproariously hilarious, but through it all, even someone who disagrees with it like I do, the most selfish plan of action would be to just go with the idea that its real. So when I can afford one, I'm gonna get a really good gas mileage car.
Vendetagainst:
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--- Quote from: Vendetagainst on 10 Aug 2008, 21:13 ---But when his only ethical option is Tipper, can you blame him?
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Come on, she used to be a pretty lady! You can't blame a girl for looking like a middle aged lady when she is one.
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Yeah, but maybe I'd like to be playing some decent music in the background during coitus! Or maybe I'd like to try an exotic position, or dirty talk her, or carve pentagrams into her chest... I mean I would just feel very restricted is all!
Ozymandias:
Maybe we're look at global warming the wrong way!
Maybe we're just being rewarded for treating others the way we'd like to be treated, obeying stop signs, and curing diseases.
dennis:
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--- Quote from: Leonidas on 12 Aug 2008, 07:57 ---How has anyone been proven wrong???
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--- Quote ---I agree that nothing's been proven, but the evidence is still in favor of global warming being man-made.
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So what about the rise and fall of temperatures the Earth went through before man was even on the scene? What about the rising temperature of Mars? Is that our fault also????
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No one is arguing that the earth doesn't undergo natural climate change. Geological and biological activity over geological time scales have changed the composition of the atmosphere to a great degree, causing warming and cooling, ice ages, etc. However, the scientific consensus on global warming is that it doesn't fit the pattern of past climate change. Also, consider that the data used to determine that the climate changed in the past is the same data that supports the theory of global warming.
Arguing that global warming is natural because the climate was different in the past is just a red herring.
Also, there is evidence that there is much more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere now than there was at the beginning of the industrial age, and that the increase in carbon dioxide is man-made because carbon from different sources has a different isotope profile.
If you accept that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, then the increase in global average temperature over recent history supports the theory that global warming is man-made. Of course, this isn't proven, but it's what the evidence supports.
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--- Quote from: dennis ---You know this is a popular conspiracy theory, right? In league with fluoridated water mind-control and 9-11 being an inside job?
Also, the fact that governments are capitalizing on global warming hysteria to pass laws and increase taxes has absolutely nothing to do with the legitimacy of global warming. It speaks more to the fact that our government acts in its own interests rather than that of its people. It's fine to believe in an unpopular cause, but at least do it for a good reason.
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Actually it has a lot to do with the legitimacy of global warming. I can't overly comment on the American or Canadian goverments as I'm in the UK. The the whole thing is as cynical as hell. Governments treat us like idiots and they are hardly beyond using any means possible to use any chance they can get to increase their level of intrusion into our lives and ring more money out of us. This Global Warming panic is an absolute God-send for big business and governments alike. Especially as anyone who dares question their motives and the legitimacy of the global warming argument is ignored and ridiculed as someone who would kill us all!!!!
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Again, I say: So what? Setting aside the fact that you're not offering any evidence that the government is participating in a conspiracy to defraud the public and just appealing to cynicism, how exactly does this invalidate the science? I mean, if I take advantage of a downpour to gouge people on the price of my umbrellas for sale, does it change the fact that it's raining?
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