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Weather Channel founder wants to sue Al Gore
Hat:
I am fucking infuriated at these liberal fucking faggots.
Let's have some fucking objectivity here for fucks sake
We are all prostitutes
Khar I am not fond of this uppity fucking viewpoint you have.
Who the fuck said you were allowed an opinion
jhocking:
--- Quote from: Johnny C on 13 Aug 2008, 00:53 ---You're talking out of your ass.
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Johnny, while I disagree with leonidas in his analysis of the situation, you are proving his point about being branded a heretic when you toss personal insults.
IronOxide:
--- Quote from: axerton on 12 Aug 2008, 19:24 ---Ok, in a very simplistic view on our future, depending on global warming existing or not there are four options
1: Global warming was all just a big hoax and we do nothing about it.
Result: We go on living just as we have, though eventually we run out of fossil fuels.
2: Global warming was all just a big hoax, but we act as if it wasn't.
Result: Our quality of living deteriorates for a while, but we are now attached to a renewable energy sauce.
3: Global warming exists and we act to counter it
Result: similar to 2
4: Global warming exists and we do nothing about it
Result: Life as we know it is wiped out.
Now I know 1 is the ideal option there. But personally I would much prefer to do something about it and end up with option 2 or 3, than end up with 4 because we were too busy praying it would be 1.
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Why have we not talked more about how good of a post this is?
Let's talk about how good of a post this is.
Leonidas:
--- Quote from: Johnny C on 13 Aug 2008, 00:53 ---No, seriously.
I was going to say something about this in the last post but I figured you wouldn't be silly enough to focus on the point so here it is: Earth cooling down does not rule out climate change. Whether it gets colder or warmer is irrelevant as long as that change is caused by us. Jesus Christ. And have you even read past the headline of the article you linked to?
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Right, so what are we talking here. Climate Change or Global Warming? I ask because it seems that you can pick and choose whatever one of these two catchy titles to suit whatever your argument may be at any given time. If we're talking climate change then I've already stated my point of view on that phenomenon. That it has happened throught the entire life of the Earth to date, with the Earth warming and cooling periodically, sometimes drastically. It's a completely natural cycle that the world goes through and we have no power at all to stop the Earth doing what it does.
The human race is prone to blind panic though. In the 1970's scientists were convinced that the next ice age was imminent. Now scientists (apparently "90 percent" of them) believe that the Earth is going to get hotter with sea levels rising and boiling us all to death. 30 years is absolutely nothing in the lifetime of the Earth, so how come the sudden drastic change in policy?
--- Quote from: Johnny C on 13 Aug 2008, 00:53 ---I've already said it but I'll repeat it, you're talking out of your ass, and I'm not saying that because you disagree with me. I've been in plenty of disagreements on this forum and they don't necessarily involve someone talking out of their ass. You're talking out of your ass.
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You suit yourself.
--- Quote from: dennis on 13 Aug 2008, 03:54 ---
--- Quote from: Leonidas on 12 Aug 2008, 07:57 ---How has anyone been proven wrong???
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--- Quote ---I agree that nothing's been proven, but the evidence is still in favor of global warming being man-made.
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So what about the rise and fall of temperatures the Earth went through before man was even on the scene? What about the rising temperature of Mars? Is that our fault also????
--- Quote from: Leonidas ---The fact that this global warming argument is an easy ticket for governments and companies to drastically throw up prices, increase legislation, and essentially piss all over the average man and woman are simply ignored in what has become a super fashionable movement.
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You know this is a popular conspiracy theory, right? In league with fluoridated water mind-control and 9-11 being an inside job?
Also, the fact that governments are capitalizing on global warming hysteria to pass laws and increase taxes has absolutely nothing to do with the legitimacy of global warming. It speaks more to the fact that our government acts in its own interests rather than that of its people. It's fine to believe in an unpopular cause, but at least do it for a good reason.
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Actually it has a lot to do with the legitimacy of global warming. I can't overly comment on the American or Canadian goverments as I'm in the UK. The the whole thing is as cynical as hell. Governments treat us like idiots and they are hardly beyond using any means possible to use any chance they can get to increase their level of intrusion into our lives and ring more money out of us. This Global Warming panic is an absolute God-send for big business and governments alike. Especially as anyone who dares question their motives and the legitimacy of the global warming argument is ignored and ridiculed as someone who would kill us all!!!!
tommydski:
--- Quote from: Axerton ---1: Global warming was all just a big hoax and we do nothing about it.
Result: We go on living just as we have, though eventually we run out of fossil fuels.
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Devil's advocacy ahoy - There are Geologists at work who disagree that oil is a fossil fuel. I don't really have the know-how or the patience to debate them but I have overheard this discussion for hours and hours on end. These are people who work in petro-science for a living and have six figure salaries incidentally. The general theory is that the formations from which we extract oil have been mistaken as the origin rather than the depository of oil. This is known as the Abiogenic Petroleum Theory.
Personally I am inclined to disagree but what the hell do I know? Not much!
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