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Weather Channel founder wants to sue Al Gore
tommydski:
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--- Quote from: tommydski on 12 Aug 2008, 17:49 ---You could form a club with Leonidas though. Or some kind of right-wing situation comedy. Leinad & Leonidas. Writes itself.
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Oh, and so now I can simply be disregarded as right-wing because I dare to question what I'm spoon fed by governments whilst they raise green taxes and force ever more harsh financial penalties on people all in the name of global warming.
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Actually that was just a joke. I thought that was pretty obvious. You both have similar names and you showed a (momentary) appreciation for a right-leaning comic. That's the joke.
Think whatever the chuffing heck you want about climate change, I've made no comment in either direction regarding its credibility.
dennis:
--- Quote from: Leonidas on 12 Aug 2008, 07:57 ---How has anyone been proven wrong???
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I agree that nothing's been proven, but the evidence is still in favor of global warming being man-made.
--- Quote from: Leonidas ---Don't get me started on this "global warming" crap. Anyone who now questions this idea of global warming and your carbon footprint are deneyed as modern day heretics.
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This is the same persecution bullshit that Intelligent Design proponents spout about evolution.
--- Quote from: Leonidas ---The fact that this global warming argument is an easy ticket for governments and companies to drastically throw up prices, increase legislation, and essentially piss all over the average man and woman are simply ignored in what has become a super fashionable movement.
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You know this is a popular conspiracy theory, right? In league with fluoridated water mind-control and 9-11 being an inside job?
Also, the fact that governments are capitalizing on global warming hysteria to pass laws and increase taxes has absolutely nothing to do with the legitimacy of global warming. It speaks more to the fact that our government acts in its own interests rather than that of its people. It's fine to believe in an unpopular cause, but at least do it for a good reason.
--- Quote from: Leonidas ---Yes of course there is climate change, there always has been. Hell, they used to be able to ice skate across the Thames in London during the Tudor period it was so cold. Before that the the Romans would grow vines of grapes in Northern England in order to make wine. The world has always warmed up and cooled down in natural cycles. It's simply the sheer arrogance of man to believe that they can combat it in anyway and we can stop the earth itself simply doing its thing.....
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It isn't arrogance if it's true. The fact is, humanity can change the earth globally. We've overfished vast areas of the ocean to the point of collapse, when we used to think that the ocean was so abundant that human activity could never affect it. We've actually removed a good fraction of oil from the crust, fast enough that we are running out of easily accessible supplies. It follows that we've also converted most of that oil into carbon dioxide, which is a proven greenhouse gas.
Is it not more arrogant to believe that everything will be ok if we don't restrain ourselves?
--- Quote from: Leonidas ---The fact is that we have been sold a lie. A lie which conveniently means that governments and big business can make even more money out of us, and what's more they can try and make us feel guilty about the very process.
By all means be green. Reduce, reuse, recycle and all that jazz. It makes good sense of course it does. Don't buy into the convenient lie however that you and I are to blame for what is a perfectly natural cycle the world goes through and then be made to pay for the privilege.
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Back to the conspiracy theory! Just because someone's making money off of it, doesn't mean it's not real. It just means that people are gullible.
KharBevNor:
Climate change is not proven, but it is a fucking certainty that carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide and water vapour cause a greenhouse effect in our atmosphere. This is not arguable. This is scientific fucking fact. Ice cores also empirically prove that we are pumping utterly unprecedented amounts of these gases, particularly Co2, into the atmosphere. It's like if I'm standing in an underground petrol tank chainsmoking. I know that petrol is combustible. I know that when you contain a rapid release of gases it is a bomb. I know that my cigarette is a source of combustion. But those measly scientists can't prove that all they'll find is half my skull with my glasses fused on lodged up a tree two miles away, can they? Stupid fucking scientists, with their empiricism and experimental repeatability and peer review process. What do they know, eh?
redglasscurls:
--- Quote from: Vendetagainst on 10 Aug 2008, 21:13 ---But when his only ethical option is Tipper, can you blame him?
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Come on, she used to be a pretty lady! You can't blame a girl for looking like a middle aged lady when she is one.
KharBevNor:
Man, what dick thought up peak oil? Let's sue the fucker! It makes no sense at all that a finite natural resource could ever run out. Why the fuck are all these liberal faggots telling me I shouldn't use as much fucking energy as I like? They must hate America.
You know I've never even seen an Inconvenient Truth? I read books! Crazy huh?
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