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4th edition D&D=Teh sckuk OR awesomesauce?
Surgoshan:
Yeah... there isn't anything like that in 4e. No more chain-wielding trip-monkeys who put together weapons and feats in order to do one thing over and over and over so that the DM has no choice but to either let them break combat or throw an enemy against them that can't be, say, tripped or knocked down (gargantuan centipede) which completely nullifies them by being immune to the one, and only one, thing they do.
Alex C:
Yep, you don't need to do anything special feat wise to lay the hurt on people or worry about being rendered a one trick pony so much anymore. These days thicket of blades is a 3[W] plus strength bonus damage attack to adjacent creatures that slows anything it hits until they make a saving throw, which is good but hardly mindblowing. Fighters are better at attacks of opportunity than the other classes in 4e, but it's largely a standard feature of the class that can't really be cheesed all that much.
ackblom12:
--- Quote from: Nodaisho on 05 Sep 2008, 23:44 ---Thicket of blades do the same thing as 3.5? In 3.5, it was a stance (book of 9 swords) that let you make an AoO off of 5-foot steps (now called shifting). Pretty mean, especially when you use a large-sized reach weapon (with powerful build) and something to make you go up one size (two if you are a high enough level psychic warrior). You get knockdown, which allows you to make an automatic trip attempt every time you do 10 or more damage, a +8 to trip from size (I have nothing of value to add.2 if you go up two sizes from expansion), +4 from improved trip, and a big strength bonus, along with any magical items you might have. Oh, and you could make a strong case that with improved trip, after you make a successful trip attempt from knockdown, you get a free attack on the now-prone opponent. So you make your AoO, do at least 10 damage, trip them, and hit them again. And you can do this to anyone within 15 or 20 feet, not sure on that part. (short haft allows you to use a reach weapon inside its normal range, or you can use a gauntlet, which I don't think counts as TWF as long as you aren't attacking with both of them in the same action)
Course, if you are fighting a gargantuan centipede, you are SOL.
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See this?
This is why I'm never touching 3rd Ed again.
Nodaisho:
You do realize that that is just a basic attempt at making a fighter more than a waste of space, right? An archer type can sit back a few hundred feet away and pelt him with ten or twelve arrows in a round, a wizard can blind him, since he has shitty will saves, which means he has no idea when or where to swing, and even if he does, he gets a 50% miss chance, and a cleric... well, I guess clerics are really either not all that good, or godlike (DMM:Persist lets you put a lot of buffs on for 24 hours). Though they do have storm of vengeance.
ackblom12:
What you just said? Supporting my choice to never touch 3rd Ed again.
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