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Melodic:
I am so fucking sick of this "fuck EA" stuff.
SecuROM was scaled back tremendously in its strictness months ago. Severely scaled back, as anyone who played Mass Effect for the PC knows.
Changing out "any internal hardware" is totally inaccurate, as well. Replacing most of the guts of a PC won't set you back an install, and the only parts that will trigger it are ones in which you'd have to reinstall the game anyways.
Three installs is not all you get, ever. Although I admit that the system is long-winded, calling EA will almost guarantee another install, excluding the possibilities that you distributed your key/software to others. Blaming hardware changes, hardware failures, or a new PC will net you more installs.
Also, since when did everyone start using the f-bomb over a game that they haven't even played yet? Most of the negative posts here have been by people who haven't had their hands on the final copy. Half of this thread is "fuck EA, fuck DRM" nonsense that I'd expect on other forums, not here. None of the reviews mention user-created content, procedural programming, which is typical of sites that focus on getting the first review posted as quickly as possible, that are also immune to the cool features that Wright discussed originally in Germany.
Pardon me for defending a gaming giant, but dayumn.
Surgoshan:
Why should I have to call EA for permission to use the game? By going out and purchasing the game, I've purchased permission to use the game. EA isn't my mommy. I'm not 12. I don't need permission to play my game.
Fuck DRM. Whether it's EA or Sony or your next door neighbor, fuck DRM.
Ozymandias:
I have to side with Melodic.
When did the gaming community become such petulant assholes they they have to throw a tantrum and steal when the industry is trying to find ways to have people not steal their games? Why is it fair to punish the developers and programmers and artists who have worked ridiculously hard to make this game for, what, the past 4-5 years because they disagree with a business decision from the publisher?
It's like when the HD-DVD key was cracked and posted on Digg, the owner of Digg was threatened with lawsuits and removed it, and the entire community repelled and started posting it over and over again. Way to fucking go, assholes, you threaten a man's livelihood while not putting yourself into any possible danger at all and putting forth no effort. Just a rebellious nerdrage because your actions will never come back to haunt you, it'll just punish innocent people.
Dimmukane:
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If it were a number like at least 5 installs, I would not have a problem with the DRM. I just think 3 is a bit limiting, and as I said, I'm waiting until I have the time and money first anyways. In all seriousness, though, who would I make the check out to? EA? Right now I'm completely split on what I should do when I do come across the money. I could buy the legit version, get the DRM, but EA loses some profit to EB. I could get the cracked version, no DRM, limited functionality (apparently the cracked copy only supports 1024x768 and no AA), EA gets the full $53.00 (sales tax in my state). Can somebody offer a second opinion?
I do intend to pay that much whenever I get it, which may not be for another 4 months.
Melodic, if you could work your magic and maybe get them to increase the amount of installs a bit, I would buy the legit version of the game.
To clarify, in light of John's post, I am going to pay for this game before it is installed on my computer, one way or another. I am as disgusted that it was cracked 3 days early as anyone on the team. I just can't decide how to pay them.
Melodic:
Sorry mate, my "magic" only extends to DICE at the moment.
I don't approve of DRM. I think studios like Bethesda have proven than even without DRM, a product can be so astoundingly well-done that pirating isn't a factor. That being said, however, you have to seriously consider what position producers and, to some extent, developers are put in when releasing a game. We don't revolt at the thought of Walmart putting theft detection thingies at the door, and while I understand the DRM we're talking about is much more restrictive than that, you can't just say "fuck DRM".
Perhaps more accurately, if you're looking for a bike, you can't get mad at somebody for having the bike chained up when you go to look at it. It's not a personal insult that it's locked, just a statement that the world is full of assholes. Saying "fuck the lock!", breaking it with wirecutters and making off with the bike isn't a mature or even reasonable course of action, no matter how easy it is to do. You can't take it as a bloody insult that he's locked up the bike, and NOT buying the bike because the owner is cautious is silly. Stubborn, even.
Despite my feelings on the subject, it is not so much the discussion about DRM here that makes me rant but the fact that half of the posts have been plain rude. Fuck EA, fuck Maxis, fuck DRM, fuck SecuROM, fuck the game. This forum is definitely above that.
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