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Re: Deerhoof
« Reply #50 on: 24 Sep 2008, 10:51 »

See Jens above point for rebuttal!

Seriously though he just looks, well, kinda retarded. I guess you have to be into weak music to find it impressive or something :p
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Re: Deerhoof
« Reply #51 on: 24 Sep 2008, 11:31 »

oh and tuna ketchup; techincally the drum kit is not a classical instrument, you have percussion parts, but that is not the same as a regular drumkit, or Saunier's three-piece one, typically "percussion" refers to timpani drums, standard cymbals, a snare drum played independently, et cetera.

Technically, you're right.  But more often percussion professors are actually "teaching" drum kit, especially in universities that have exceptional to moderately good jazz programs.
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Re: Deerhoof
« Reply #52 on: 24 Sep 2008, 11:40 »

re: offend maggie

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Re: Deerhoof
« Reply #53 on: 24 Sep 2008, 13:25 »

I guess it also depends on whether you consider jazz to be classical music, I categorize it as classical. Under that most instruments could be considered "classical instruments," it's all in how you play.
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Re: Deerhoof
« Reply #54 on: 24 Sep 2008, 16:05 »

That is no way to define Classical! 

The Classical Period (narrow definition) is the period between the Baroque and the Romantic - say Haydn/Mozart/early Beethoven. 

The genre of classical music is (vaguely) everything that is not folk music, popular music or Jazz.  It is hard to find a clear dividing line though, and easier to point at particular attributes of one or other type of music: classical music is generally through-composed, and generally has a considerable degree of development; popular music (folk music was different) is now largely music that has been commodified by the corporations for the purpose of selling ever greater numbers of records (hence the requirement for it to be evanescent; and hence also their panic over the possibility of music being distributed without the sale of hardware).

Classical music can use whatever instruments are around - it is only the old-fashoined elitist view of "classical music", defined as the big romantics with a nod to the baroque in Bach and Handel, and moments of daring modernity with Elgar, that might claim a specific set of instruments as "classical" (essentially the symphony orchestra and the piano).  Classical Music has included a wide range of modern percussion instruments - Stockhausen's Kontacte, Birtwistle's The Axe Manual, and Connolley's Night Thoughts are substantial examples that come to mind.  It's not that classical music doesn't use the drum kit, but rather that popular music has focussed on a stylised form of it, as it has focused on a stylised format of songs and albums.
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Re: Deerhoof
« Reply #55 on: 24 Sep 2008, 18:57 »

Jazz is not it's own sort of music. It started as folk music, became popular music, now is probably 'classical' music.

There are three forms of culture, popular, high and folk. Classical=high for all intents and purposes.
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Re: Deerhoof
« Reply #56 on: 24 Sep 2008, 23:59 »

Actually, I find that the longer I live with these distinctions, the less clear or useful they become.
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Re: Deerhoof
« Reply #57 on: 27 Sep 2008, 16:24 »

I just noticed this thread.  I geeked-out all over the mediaf!re thread with regards to Offend Maggie two days ago, and the band in general about a month ago.  Deerhoof is may favorite band of the last 5 years (I realize they've been around longer, but that's how long I've been into them), and that was before Offend Maggie.  Their new album kicks so much ass I can't even sit down.  They start their tour on the 3rd of October in LA.  Go see them.  I caught them opening for Malkmus, and the Flaming Lips in Bend, OR back in 2005.  They were the highlight.
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Re: Deerhoof
« Reply #58 on: 27 Sep 2008, 17:08 »

Wow, I've been listening to some of Offend Maggie, it's the first I've heard of Deerhoof. Um... wow, very unique sound. I agree when people say her voice is used as another instrument. I could get used to this though, it's good.
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