Topic: Radiohead (Read 31135 times)

geffyb · « **on:** 24 Sep 2008, 13:14 »

Thought this could be a general Radiohead discussion thread, with a vote at the top.

Personally I think OK Computer is the best because of the great lyrics and the style that hinted at the Experimental work to come yet still showed them as a rocking band.

That and Paranoid Android.

Thrillho · « **Reply #1 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 15:01 »

I think at this stage I can say In Rainbows.

No experiments. No wigging out. No weirdness. Just comfortable guys trying to make good songs, for the first time in 14 years.

It'd be a lie though, as much as I love that album I know I like Ok Computer more.

Christophe · « **Reply #2 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 15:03 »

Who is this... Radiohead?

michaelicious · « **Reply #3 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 15:10 »

Aren't they that band that sounds like Coldplay or something.

geffyb · « **Reply #4 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 15:46 »

Quote from: michaelicious on 24 Sep 2008, 15:10

Aren't they that band that sounds like Coldplay or something.

*sigh* it was inevitable.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #5 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 15:49 »

I absolutely love Pablo Honey. It's got this nineties underground feel and I feel it a lot more than their other stuff. Second place goes to The Bends and OK Computer.

Be My Head · « **Reply #6 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 15:55 »

I like that one song by them, Creep.

Though the cover version by Northern Kings is far superior.

squawk · « **Reply #7 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 16:30 »

Regarding favorite albums, I can never make up my mind with these fellows.

"A Reminder" is totally their best song, though. They have so many absolutely fantastic B-sides, it is ridiculous.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #8 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 16:46 »

Kid, Talk Show Host

theoryC · « **Reply #9 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 16:46 »

OKC is probably my favorite. I voted for Kid A though.

And true that about the b-sides. I'm particularly fond of The Amazing Sounds of Orgy. Funny how the Amnesiac b-sides are better than Amnesiac.

geffyb · « **Reply #10 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 16:50 »

Quote from: theoryC on 24 Sep 2008, 16:46

OKC is probably my favorite. I voted for Kid A though.

And true that about the b-sides. I'm particularly fond of The Amazing Sounds of Orgy. Funny how the Amnesiac b-sides are better than Amnesiac.

Even more ironic is how Amnesiac is pretty much a B-side collection of Kid-A

KickThatBathProf · « **Reply #11 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 17:32 »

Quote from: geffyb on 24 Sep 2008, 15:46

Quote from: michaelicious on 24 Sep 2008, 15:10
Aren't they that band that sounds like Coldplay or something.

*sigh* it was inevitable.

Man, I think you missed it.

The joke, that is.

KvP · « **Reply #12 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 17:54 »

I can't really listen to any pre-Kid A Radiohead, I don't know why. First cut is the deepest, I guess. They all have their strengths, but I'd go with Amnesiac. Pyramid Song + Pulk/Pull Revolving Doors is just perfect. I think I'm the only person who likes the latter.

De_El · « **Reply #13 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 18:10 »

Someone once old me that if you like Pulk/Pull Revolving Doors, you're capable of liking everything Radiohead have ever done.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #14 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 18:58 »

What's the shortest one?

Because that would be my favourite.

Because Radiohead are fucking awful.

theoryC · « **Reply #15 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 20:27 »

That would be Pablo Honey, might wanna reconsider.

Quote from: De_El

Someone once old me that if you like Pulk/Pull Revolving Doors, you're capable of liking everything Radiohead have ever done.

Replace Pulk/Pull Revolving Doors with Hunting Bears and you may have something. Pulk/Pull is fucking awesome. And you know what else is fucking awesome? Hail to the Thief. That album needs more love.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #16 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 20:37 »

Hunting Bears is incredibly cool. I love that song. In fact, I love every track on Amnesiac.

bob, just bob · « **Reply #17 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 21:22 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 24 Sep 2008, 18:58

What's the shortest one?

I know that it was a retorical question, and you were just being an ass,
but it's Pablo honey at 42:11 beating In Rainbows by 23 seconds

michaelicious · « **Reply #18 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 21:26 »

Quote from: theoryC on 24 Sep 2008, 20:27

Hail to the Thief. That album needs more love.

I love the song "I Will". I should start listening to Radiohead again, maybe.

theoryC · « **Reply #19 on:** 24 Sep 2008, 22:56 »

Pretty much every song except for Scatterbrain is quality. Sit Down Stand Up and Where I End And You Begin especially.

ps: i am ecstatic with the news that radiohead may be nearly finished with their next album :OOOO

RedLion · « **Reply #20 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 00:49 »

OK Computer borders on being a masterpiece and was one of the best albums of the 90s. I love Kid A too, but sometimes on that album it seems like they're trying too hard to be experimental and unique. In Rainbows took me a long time to get into, actually. The first 3 times I listened to the album, I just thought it was crap. It was actually when I was on a 5 hour train ride through the countryside of Tuscany that I first really started to enjoy it, and it now rivals OK Computer for my favorite album among them.

Spluff · « **Reply #21 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 00:54 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 24 Sep 2008, 18:58

What's the shortest one?

Because that would be my favourite.

Because Radiohead are fucking awful.

My hero.

RedLion · « **Reply #22 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 00:57 »

I guess I don't see the point in coming in here if you hate the band.

imagist42 · « **Reply #23 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 01:00 »

Khar should not be anyone's hero. Underneath that sleek, everything-that's-not-metal-hating exterior is a dirty transvestite hobo Lord. Khar is just Khar and we'd best leave it at that.

Hat · « **Reply #24 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 02:38 »

Quote from: RedLion on 25 Sep 2008, 00:57

I guess I don't see the point in coming in here if you hate the band.

He probably doesn't see the point of 20 Radiohead fans talking about how much they like Radiohead either, I personally don't see the point in you saying you don't see the point in him coming in here if he hates the band. Quite frankly I'm only saying this because NOBODY SEES THE POINT IN ANYTHING.

PS I voted for The Bends because despite the fact that it is probably the most adolescently themed album, lyrically, it is also the album that has held up for me the best through to my mid 20s. I grew tired of most of the songs on the other albums. Each album has a few gems. OK Computer has Electioneering and Lucky, Kid A has The National Anthem and Idioteque, Amnesiac has Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box and Hail to the Thief has There There, Go To Sleep, and Mixamatosis, but if you asked me to listen to any of these albums I would probably skip at least half the tracks. Hail to the Thief probably fares the best out of them but its a more recent album and I never really played it to death and obsessed over it the way I did their earlier stuff so its fresher and less worn out in my mind. By this standard in another five years I am probably going to love In Rainbows because I have had trouble giving a shit about that album at all despite the fact that it was a reasonably solid effort, but The Bends is the only album I can really just sit down and play like a record, even though I'd class the songs I listed here from other albums as being better than any individual track on The Bends.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #25 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 07:38 »

Quote from: imagist42 on 25 Sep 2008, 01:00

Khar should not be anyone's hero. Underneath that sleek, everything-that's-not-metal-hating exterior is a dirty transvestite hobo Lord. Khar is just Khar and we'd best leave it at that.

underneath?

overtone · « **Reply #26 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 09:25 »

I don't get The Bends. I had a girlfriend in college who introduced me via Black Star. I mean, its a good album, but its ... traditional or something. Kid A, man, that shit like, perfectly describes a certain mood I get into.

rynne · « **Reply #27 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 10:06 »

For most of their career, Radiohead has been unsuccessfully trying to recapture the magic and brilliance of Pablo Honey. Sorry Thom & Co., but lightning won't strike twice. They should just admit that they'll never again reach the artistic heights of "Creep," maybe take a break from music to sort things out.

imagist42 · « **Reply #28 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 10:10 »

Creep is a pretty mediocre song. Nothing really sets it apart from most other early 90's alternative music.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #29 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 11:41 »

Yeah, was that sarcasm? Pablo Honey is really very boring on the whole. There are some OK elements but it's mostly redundant and uninterestingly basic alternative 90s rock. Even Creep is very standard and honestly not a very good song.

RedLion · « **Reply #30 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 11:46 »

Most Radiohead fans (that I've met anyway) kind of disown Pablo Honey. It's not like the rest of their catalog..and maybe that's what you're getting at? You like that record and not their others? Pablo Honey is their weakest album, IMO.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #31 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 11:52 »

Not only is it unlike the rest of their catalog (which abstractly is totally fine) and their worst release, it's just an uninteresting and completely non-compelling release all on its own. Without even considering the context or the artists, the album as it stands alone has nothing special about it.

KvP · « **Reply #32 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 12:11 »

Come on now, Radiohead doesn't even like Pablo Honey. They didn't like Creep before they even recorded it, which is ironic, because the way they voiced their displeasure through the song (the pre-chorus guitar crunch) made it all the more popular.

If there's anything that's "best" about Pablo Honey, it's Thom Yorke's look.

rynne · « **Reply #33 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 12:21 »

Quote from: TheFuriousWombat on 25 Sep 2008, 11:41

was that sarcasm?

I was going more for complete absurdity, but yes. That post was not true.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #34 on:** 25 Sep 2008, 12:50 »

Oh, phew!

FaultyRiot · « **Reply #35 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 09:49 »

I'd have to say In Rainbows is my favorite album, just because i can sit down and just love every song. The other albums may have some better songs, but not all of them are that good. OKC and Kid A come in second....and Pablo Honey last.

Hat · « **Reply #36 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 11:08 »

Is it some kind of perverted hipster irony that In Rainbows is getting so much love in this thread because I would jack off onto a picture of Johnny Greenwood and yet that album has been the single most forgettable piece of shit they have ever released.

I guess it is significantly less angsty or pretentious than the rest of their output but if you do not want to listen to pretentious angsty bullshit then why are you listening to Radiohead in the first place for fucks sake

Or do you guys just hate the record industry that much that you would actually fetishize the method of distribution above the actual product itself

Be My Head · « **Reply #37 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 11:29 »

I agree...

OK Computer is their best and everyone knows it, a very well balanced album all the way through and not too much wankery/annoying vocals. Minus Thom's annoying vocals, "In Rainbows" has some decent songs on it, though with some really boring parts too.

OK Computer is in fact the only album of theirs I would still listen too. (Yes I was joking when I said I only liked Creep)

Thrillho · « **Reply #38 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 11:42 »

Quote from: Hat on 27 Sep 2008, 11:08

MY VAGINA HURTS

In Rainbows is the work of a band who is comfortable, and just wants to record. Nobody puts a note out of place on that album, whereas OK Computer has the steaming pile of shit that is 'Fitter, Happier.' It's restrained, and it's relaxed. Sure, it's easier to listen to - and I like that. It's a warm album, by Radiohead standards at least. OKC is the better album, yes, as far as how it hangs together as a piece, the unification of the album as a whole; but as far as simple song-by-song strength, consistence, I'd say IR edges it out.

imagist42 · « **Reply #39 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 11:46 »

Seriously. You can't tell me "15 Step" isn't one of their best songs. I mean ever.

AND IF YOU TRY I WILL FIGHT YOU, SIR

Thrillho · « **Reply #40 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 11:52 »

Actually, that's one of my least favourites from the album. Although I love how it's not so much a 15 step as it is a mis-step, because it opens with the electro beat and it's more or less the only Kid A-like moment on the record.

FaultyRiot · « **Reply #41 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 12:32 »

15 Step is also one of my least favorites on the album too... Bodysnatchers is the best

imagist42 · « **Reply #42 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 12:45 »

that's it, you're both in for some FIGHTIN'

But really, I can understand not adoring "15 Step" as much as I do. But liking "Bodysnatchers" over it? I mean, they're the same song musically, one's just noisier and less catchy.

Valrus · « **Reply #43 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 13:24 »

Weird Fishes is the best song on In Rainbows, in my opinion. I'm voting for Kid A because it was my first Radiohead album and it has a special place in my heart. I was used to more or less standard pop music, like nothing more offbeat than R.E.M., and Kid A was kind of a revelation.

Amnesiac is a very underrated album. John Darnielle agrees with me, and he is never wrong. Here are ten short essays he wrote about it, (almost) one per track:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8/9 10 11

Hat · « **Reply #44 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 13:32 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid on 27 Sep 2008, 11:42

Quote from: Hat on 27 Sep 2008, 11:08
MY VAGINA HURTS

In Rainbows is the work of a band who is comfortable, and just wants to record. Nobody puts a note out of place on that album, whereas OK Computer has the steaming pile of shit that is 'Fitter, Happier.'

Because god forbid a band would want to write an album that builds thematic continuity and write a track that splits an album between conventional LP sides with a transitional track that fits the theme of the album fucking perfectly no way, that would be ridiculous and lame and not edgy enough.

Hat · « **Reply #45 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 13:38 »

Hahahah your criteria for a band writing good songs is to completely forsake experimentation and just rock out

If this was the 80's you'd be listening to Bon Jovi and you'd still like their shit albums

Hat · « **Reply #46 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 13:44 »

To be fair if you are going to listen to mediocre rock bands you might as well champion their mediocre albums because that is kind of performance art in a way

Thrillho · « **Reply #47 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 14:16 »

Any of those posts individually might've been credible, even the last one. But putting it in three separate posts kinda subtracts any of the wit of the situation.

theoryC · « **Reply #48 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 15:26 »

While I enjoyed IR, I agree that it doesn't come close to being their best. However, if they had done a better job of song selection (add in four songs from the bonus disc, maybe get rid of Jigsaw), it could have been up there with Kid A. Same situation with Amnesiac. Morning Bell/Amnesiac is their worst song post-PH.

And whoever said Fitter Happier is shit is sorely mistaken. Fitter Happier is THE shit, man.

FaultyRiot · « **Reply #49 on:** 27 Sep 2008, 17:16 »

now, I'm not saying that i like bodysnatchers significantly more than 15 step, all the songs on the album are near even on the goodness scale

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