Topic: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving (Read 20128 times)

spoon_of_grimbo · « **Reply #50 on:** 10 Dec 2008, 17:43 »

Quote from: MadassAlex on 10 Dec 2008, 16:58

Wait, is there genuinely some kind of asshole social condition here that implies that "cheesy" music is less worthy than "serious" music? Because I thought that was all a joke.

i think that many indie fans (like those who make up most of the userbase of this forum, although i'm by no means saying that all the users here are necessarily like this) dismiss metal as some kind of joke. personally it seems to me that a lot of the current indie bands suffer from a complete lack of enthusiasm and passion. i've seen videos of several of the bands that are being thrown around in the best of 2008 thread (one that stuck out was MGMT) where they're playing like they couldn't give a shit and would rather be somewhere else (hell, i even read an article a while back about this very subject, so someone agrees with me).

compare that to the likes of, say, devin townsend (who's already been mentioned). his stuff with strapping young lad is incredibly heavy, both musically and emotionally (the "alien" album sounds like a guy falling apart), but he's not afraid to throw in a bit of humour either. and his solo stuff runs the gamut from pop-rock numbers to huge atmospheric pieces (seriously, "terria" is a fucking monolithically huge album), all with a similarly passionate delivery. live, he's just as intense, but also entertaining and funny. sadly however, there's always going to some people who'll see the "vampira" video and their only thought regarding devin would be "awww look at the funny man with his funny music! now, where are my twee indie-pop albums..."

it comes down to the whole "liking something ironically" issue. in that if you like a song, band, or even whole genre ironically, you're essentially pretending to like it in an effort to boast about your range of tastes, whilst simultanously belittling it and trying to appear like you're somehow above it. at the end of the day, there could be a million reasons why you like or a dislike a particular song/band/genre, but the bottom line is you either like it or you don't.

lepeste · « **Reply #51 on:** 10 Dec 2008, 18:32 »

now dont me wrong i do listen to a lot of tweepop.
but, i do take my metal seriously. i honestly do love Turisas, and i love Necrophagist and into eternity, and suffocation, lamb of god, finntroll all of them.
i really do, i think theyre all FANTASTIC musicians and i love the music, the energy and the effort and time they put into the music
it is really fantastic. so respectable and just bad ass. but i just think its a silly, when they dress up like vikings. its pretty sweet, just silly.
and i dont like that stuff ironically. before i got intoo indie pop, i was really big into metal, i just needed something more mellow, but necrophagist is one of my most listened to bands. and for the record i do have every manowar cd and have listened to each one atleast 3 times. because, its actually good music.
just a little bit cheesey, but since when has cheese ever stopped someone from doing something awesome?
i think its awesome, techinical, skillfull, yet slightly silly when bands go over the top and dress up like vikings and play viking music. turisas' music is fucking phenomenal i just think the whole viking costume thing is slightly silly. thats all.

lepeste · « **Reply #52 on:** 10 Dec 2008, 18:33 »

Quote from: MadassAlex on 09 Dec 2008, 23:59

Quote from: Uber Ritter on 09 Dec 2008, 22:03
Rhapsody does cheesy power metal better than about anyone I've heard. Though some Blind Guardian is quite excellent.

Man, what. Blind Guardian is the best power metal that isn't Persuader. And Persuader are basically just an improvement on Blind Guardian.

But I guess BG are less cheesy than Rhapsody, so qualify less for this thread.

Quote from: lepeste on 09 Dec 2008, 22:39
i guess in that sense yes, but the band that takes the cake on that is definitely GWAR by far. in over the top theatric metal. haha

GWAR's music resembles punky hard rock more than metal, really.

i would agree with the statement that gwar is definitely more punk rock then metal. i just ahd over-the-top theatrics on my mind and the first band i think of when i think of that is GWAR. but definitely more punk than metal

D · « **Reply #53 on:** 10 Dec 2008, 18:42 »

My favorite "cheesy" band is probably Machinae Supremacy. They're basically video game nerds playing power/pop metal. Corny, but so catchy.

Dimmukane · « **Reply #54 on:** 10 Dec 2008, 18:47 »

Quote from: spoon_of_grimbo on 10 Dec 2008, 17:43

i think that many indie fans (like those who make up most of the userbase of this forum, although i'm by no means saying that all the users here are necessarily like this) dismiss metal as some kind of joke.

You haven't been on these boards very long, so I'll let that slide.

A lot of us do. The ones who do the most talking about music are usually the least into it. But yeah, we do like a lot of metal, we just try to avoid dickery threads about it because metal makes people confrontational and thus we don't bring it up a whole lot. There was a small shitstorm a while back over whether or not Mastodon were any good and/or metal.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #55 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 03:01 »

Quote from: spoon_of_grimbo on 10 Dec 2008, 17:43

(the "alien" album sounds like a guy falling apart)

Because it was. The dude took himself off of his medication for bi-polar syndrome, and preceded to write that album. Fuckin' hell Devy.

spoon_of_grimbo · « **Reply #56 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 03:13 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 12 Dec 2008, 03:01

Quote from: spoon_of_grimbo on 10 Dec 2008, 17:43
(the "alien" album sounds like a guy falling apart)

Because it was. The dude took himself off of his medication for bi-polar syndrome, and preceded to write that album. Fuckin' hell Devy.

now THAT's dedication to your art!!! it's also probably tied for best SYL album (with "City").

MadassAlex · « **Reply #57 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 06:44 »

Quote from: Dimmukane on 10 Dec 2008, 18:47

A lot of us do. The ones who do the most talking about music are usually the least into it. But yeah, we do like a lot of metal, we just try to avoid dickery threads about it because metal makes people confrontational and thus we don't bring it up a whole lot. There was a small shitstorm a while back over whether or not Mastodon were any good and/or metal.

Yes/yes
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Dimmukane · « **Reply #58 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 07:27 »

I was also on that side of the argument.

lepeste · « **Reply #59 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 08:50 »

any band that can write an album like Leviathan. desereves to be considered one of the best bands ever. especially since ya know...its about Moby Dick

Albatron · « **Reply #60 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 09:06 »

Hey, other bands play, Manowar kills
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=5oc3fZWs0ME

Nodaisho · « **Reply #61 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 09:07 »

Actually, I believe you mean other bands play, Burzum kills. (okay, technically it was Varg, but he was the only one in the band anyway).

Dimmukane · « **Reply #62 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 09:21 »

Quote from: Jeans on 12 Dec 2008, 09:05

I wrote an album about My Dick. It's only two letters off. Does that still count?

Well, Anal Cunt does that all the time.

unwesen · « **Reply #63 on:** 13 Jan 2009, 09:58 »

@KharBevNor

Funny how things turn around. I've been a reader (and linker-to) of QC for a few years, and now this forum drives a noticeable amount of traffic to my website. Sad that it's for a few funny Black Metal I that I didn't make in the first place - I just tried to save them for posterity. That's life for you

n0tj3sus · « **Reply #64 on:** 13 Jan 2009, 16:58 »

I listen to a lot of folk music these days but here are a few metal bands my life just would not be complete without;
Dio
cock an ball torture
dimmu borgir
now thats what im talking about.

You Are Brahman! · « **Reply #65 on:** 13 Jan 2009, 18:28 »

Quote from: Siibillam-Law on 09 Dec 2008, 15:38

I'm a huge Belle& Sebastian/ Damien Rice inde-type fan but I can't help but love the over-melodious, screaming crazy vocal style of German metal band Knorkator
Anyone else heard their music?

HAHAHA. Have you watched their videos? I can't stand them, personally. I spent a while listening solely to Deutsche Musik.