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jtheory:
I think RovingSoul's point was more about why the labels are often counter-productive.
I say I'm an "atheist", but I often then have to follow that with a list of atheist stereotypes that don't apply to me.

If you say you believe in various gods, then everything gets tangled up in what you mean by "believe".  Plus, you can believe in a god's existence at some level without at all needing to obey it in any way.

You could say that any deity "exists" in a sense (and deserves this level of belief) as long as there are people who follow/worship it... so it may be worthwhile to pay it at least enough attention to figure out what ideals/morals/etc. are wrapped up in its concept.

If you actually believe in the supernatural but don't arbitrarily choose one (by birth or otherwise), it's tough to reconcile them.  Jon, there are enormous inconsistencies even between the messages from the "one" God as recorded by various prophets (from Moses to Jesus to Mohammad to Joseph Smith to others...).  It's just as possible to conclude that:
* the prophets were all terribly unreliable and/or their sacred texts were very poorly copied over time even by the faithful
* these were actually multiple different deities who each claimed to be the only one (and was deluded or lying), or
* it was one deity who simply changed its mind about a huge number of things over time.

Either way, there's not much of a requirement to obey these unreliable second-hand instructions from possibly just as unreliable deities.  They can't even get their stories straight internally.  But you can *believe* in them if you find it interesting.

Rocketman:

--- Quote from: RovingSoul on 25 Jan 2009, 02:00 ---So, if that's what you mean by imcompatible Gods, there you go. If you mean something else, enlighten me, and I'm sure I can think of some ridiculous answer.

--- End quote ---

Well, to jump to the nitty-gritty: Christians believe Jesus was the Son of God, while Muslims believe He was just one of God's prophets. How do you reconcile this?

pwhodges:

--- Quote from: Rocketman on 25 Jan 2009, 10:44 ---Christians believe Jesus was the Son of God
--- End quote ---

And. more to the point, God (as part of the Trinity).

JonSnow:

--- Quote from: Rocketman on 25 Jan 2009, 10:44 ---
--- Quote from: RovingSoul on 25 Jan 2009, 02:00 ---So, if that's what you mean by imcompatible Gods, there you go. If you mean something else, enlighten me, and I'm sure I can think of some ridiculous answer.

--- End quote ---

Well, to jump to the nitty-gritty: Christians believe Jesus was the Son of God, while Muslims believe He was just one of God's prophets. How do you reconcile this?

--- End quote ---

The fact that they both believe in the same god just have a different opinion on who was the messiah or a prophet, doesnt change that it's one and the same god

RovingSoul:
I believe that they all exist. That doesn't mean that I worship or agree with them all. Like, most American's would agree that Communism, Socialism, etc. exist, but we don't necessarily agree with their values or what they teach. However, just because we disagree with them doesn't mean that we disregard their existence.

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