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Dotes:
Wow, this thread is still going? I thought it would have (should have) died by now.

Anyway, here's a small contribution, and a great reason to hate living in the U.S. (as I sometimes do).

A ridiculous number of Americans doubt the fact of evolution.

Maybe not relevant to all of you, but that bothers me a lot more than any misunderstandings about belief systems.

Surgoshan:
That link actually gives me cause for hope.

In the last 25 years, one thing has changed; more americans are willing to self-identify as atheists.

jtheory:

--- Quote from: Surgoshan on 27 Jan 2009, 20:04 ---That link actually gives me cause for hope.

In the last 25 years, one thing has changed; more americans are willing to self-identify as atheists.

--- End quote ---

In that poll, or another one elsewhere on the site?  This one didn't mention the word "atheist" at all... though I checked, after your comment; that would be nice.  I see that it's taken a quarter of a century for Americans who say "God had no part in man's development" to go from 9% to 14%, but I think many of those people wouldn't self-identify as "atheists".

Otherwise, yeah, more of the same sad news of widespread ignorance, and no real change happening.
Even in the wording of the poll, they equate the theory of evolution with the "theory" of creationism?  I suppose they don't want to skew the poll data by seeming to favor one over the other in any way, but it's painful to see the word "theory" abused like that.


--- Quote from: Dotes on 27 Jan 2009, 17:37 ---Wow, this thread is still going? I thought it would have (should have) died by now.

--- End quote ---

It's more of a discuss thread than anything to do with the comic by now... but yeah, it dies and then gets revived now and then by new folks who want to comment.  It's something a lot of people want to talk about....


--- Quote from: Dotes on 27 Jan 2009, 17:37 ---Maybe not relevant to all of you, but that bothers me a lot more than any misunderstandings about belief systems.

--- End quote ---

Ah, but they're deeply intertwined.  What other scientific theory is challenged as much as evolution?  It's one of the theories with the MOST evidence, but it's directly in conflict with certain religious teachings, so the battle is joined.  Plate tectonics is a scientific theory that still has more kinks to be worked out and plenty of areas that are little understood -- but do you see demands to "teach the controversy" in schools?  Quantum physics is bizarre and counter-intuitive; string theory is just loopy -- but do you see people demonstrating against them?

Of course, if the American educational system were better and people weren't so friggin' ignorant, the creationists and so on would be just laughed at... but education is shitty, people never learn the important stuff, and that leaves them easily manipulated.  And then you have Fox News and so on doing their part.

A diversity of belief systems is great if they're all subject to reason, open to discussion, and none of them claim access to any absolute truth.  If only.

Blah.

Mr. Skawronska:

--- Quote ---You'd be sacrificing a rough dozen of sheep, to get your answers and Jahwe will tell you your mistake is believing in Zeus, while Zeus will tell you your mistake lies in not bringing the right sacrifice.

--- End quote ---

And honestly, if you've got that many gods talking to you about such things, perhaps you need your medication adjusted.

S

wargrafix:
it might die, but like Jason Voorhees all it will take is one silly person *cough* wil *cough* to start it all over.

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