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supersheep:
So some people are selfish and want to be treated better than others? I mean, that is all totally true, but I am really tired of people using that as a stick to beat feminists down with. There are plenty of men who want to be treated equally until it doesn't benefit them also, you know!
On the whole liberal versus radical feminism thing, I don't think that radical feminism denies free will. I think that the same argument about socially constructed domination can also be applied to the acceptance of, say, the exploitation inherent in wage-slavery or whatever. Men are socialised by the patriarchal system also, albeit in different ways. I think that if you are aware of the potential for exploitation and yet work in a job like this, whatever exploitative nature is inherently sexist about it is sort of cancelled out? I'm not sure about that. Basically I believe that we are all socialised into particular roles by patriarchal society but that does not negate our ability to freely choose activities.
Jace:
I was going to type out a long post but then I realized it'd be stupid to do so.
I am summing up what I have said with this: I think the "feminists" I met were stupid because most of them were teenage girls that had a terrible sense of entitlement because they had rich families.
I don't mean to beat feminists down, but if there is going to be equality, there should be true equality. Not "well, its okay to do one thing, unless you do it to a woman, then it's more wrong"
J-cob9000:
Didn't read the whole thread.
Just wanted to say, what happens if you spill it on yourself?
Lunchbox:
You shoulda read the whole thread.
Inlander:
Because now we're not going to tell you.
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