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[wargrafix]

i see someone might be going to jail tonight.


or the cop might just rub pepper in her mouth for swearing.

[Odin]

f.  Faye attempt to deal with what she'll see as a betrayal by a male that she cares about, withdraw further into a shell of sarcasm, cynicism and hurt feelings and start a true downward spiral accellerated by seeing the positive relationships of Dora/Marten, and Penny/Wil and visions of Gary the Pterodactyl;

Betting it'll be pretty much this.

[Mallli_kite]

f.  Faye attempt to deal with what she'll see as a betrayal by a male that she cares about, withdraw further into a shell of sarcasm, cynicism and hurt feelings and start a true downward spiral accellerated by seeing the positive relationships of Dora/Marten, and Penny/Wil and visions of Gary the Pterodactyl;

Betting it'll be pretty much this.

Oh, I hope to hell not.  First, I've already lived that (well, sans the Pterodactyl) and it is some major boring shit and second, she's already done that, why run repeats?  I'm voting for a little development, some smidgen of personal growth, maybe even a touch of maturing.  Hey, it happens occasionally.

She's a good Suthern gal -- she has the grace to look appalled at her own public actions. 

*sigh*  I'm gonna go watch a bunch of old romance movies where everything has a happy ending.  I love fantasy.

[bunnyThor]

You know, if you squint really hard at the situation, you could almost make a case for this all being Faye's fault.

After all, Sven did invite her to come with him. If she really cared for him in proportion to the reaction she is now having, she might have gritted her teeth and went along with him in an attempt to share his interests. And if she had done so, this extracurricular hanky-panky would likely have never occurred. Instead, she elected to abandon him and to engage in an evening of unhealthy drunkenness and sexual harassment of the mentally ill.

[Shaztastic]

You know, if you squint really hard at the situation, you could almost make a case for this all being Faye's fault.

After all, Sven did invite her to come with him. If she really cared for him in proportion to the reaction she is now having, she might have gritted her teeth and went along with him in an attempt to share his interests. And if she had done so, this extracurricular hanky-panky would likely have never occurred. Instead, she elected to abandon him and to engage in an evening of unhealthy drunkenness and sexual harassment of the mentally ill.

that's ridiculous, HE IS NOT A CHILD he is an adult by this age he should have the mental ability to make a discision to not sleep with another girl wether faye was there or not.

you are basically comparing this man (who's in his mid - late 20's i think) to a child who crosses the road and gets knocked down by a car because his mother wasn't there to hold his hand and help him across the street. also it only seems to me that it's only in the last week or so that she's coming to terms with how she feels for sven and prehaps it's only now he's actually hurt her she really gets how much she likes him?

i don't think there is any way you can blame faye at all for this she laid down the rules to him  and now she's doing what she promised she'd do i.e. you sleep with someone else and i'm gone

[littlefox]

Yeeeeah, bunnyThor, I'm definitely in agreement with Shaztastic on this one. Basically you're saying that women who don't follow the boys they're pursuing around constantly should "expect" these boys to pursue other women. Because ... men can't be trusted to make any decisions on their own, and as soon as they see tits, they're hard-wired to Tap That. And women need to play baby-sitter in order to hold down any type of monogamous relationship, even just a sexual one. Are you SURE that's a road you want to go down?

I know Sven's a "man-whore" and all, but as I already pointed out in my previous post, he DID manage to stay sexually monogamous with Faye for a surprisingly long time (a few months has gotta count for YEARS in Sven-time). Faye is entitled to go have some harmless fun with friends without checking up on him. Also, it's not like she was just drinking herself into oblivion in a fit of depression ... she was playing games with several of her friends. Also, given that Sven had managed to stay true to her thus far, why on earth should she have expected he'd stop?

It seemed pretty random to me, actually. Why Gina Riversmith, and more importantly, why now? Chances are Sven was in similar situations several times over the past few months and managed to resist ... I can't figure out why he got bored NOW as opposed to earlier or later. Maybe Gina was a little more persistent in her seductions than previous temptresses.

[weirdbeard]

i think its more of a question as to whether she's surprised and angry or just angry.

if the former, then it is her fault.
sven said multiple times he was a tool, and in the conversation where she laid down her ultimatum, he never agreed to abide by it.

that said, she has every right to be angry, sven was a dick.

[Econoline]

So now the question is, "How will the matter be resolved?"

Will:

a.  Faye go back and let Sven have it, either verbally or physically;
b.  Sven go to Faye and apologize;
c.  Faye go to one of her friends for support;
d.  Sven go to his friends for support;
e.  Faye get a stern talking to by the nice constable for creating a disturbance;
f.  Faye attempt to deal with what she'll see as a betrayal by a male that she cares about, withdraw further into a shell of sarcasm, cynicism and hurt feelings and start a true downward spiral accellerated by seeing the positive relationships of Dora/Marten, and Penny/Wil and visions of Gary the Pterodactyl;
g.  Any combination of the above;
h.  None of the above; or
i.  Jeph do whatever he wants (it is his story after all, we're just along for the ride).

Thanks for producing this (and the forum) Mr. Jacques.

J. Faye hooks up with the "nice constable"...and he gives her a *REAL* tongue-lashing!

[Mallli_kite]

i think its more of a question as to whether she's surprised and angry or just angry.

if the former, then it is her fault.
sven said multiple times he was a tool, and in the conversation where she laid down her ultimatum, he never agreed to abide by it.

that said, she has every right to be angry, sven was a dick.

Good call.

I think there was some misconstruing of meaning above, though -- As has been pointed out ad nauseum, Sven never agreed to be exclusive -- Faye set that rule.  They didn't share social activities like most relationships -- they had sex with each other with as little emotion as they could manage.  I won't lay blame either way, because i don't think there really is a "fault" here in what happened so much as fault for what did not happen -- a lack of communication about what was really going on.  If Faye wanted a regular, monogamous relationship, she should have put in the time one does in a relationship -- not tagging along to guard dog her man, but in trying to be a part of his life.  She said at least once that seeing Sven in a social situation wasn't something she was ready to do, and he did make the invitation. 

It's almost as if she set up a silent contract with Sven that he would be her faithful sex toy and she could continue pretending she didn't care, only he didn't sign on to that.  As for Sven, I think he's actually in his first situation where he cares about a woman he's slept with.  That's got to be world rattling for his Lothario self image.  He's hurt someone and he CARES about it.  Up to now, when he's hurt someone, he only cared about how it would affect him.  Big change there.  I think they are both surprised how much they cared about what was happening, and the shock of that is as much of the pain as anything else.

Just my opinion.

[SleeperCylon]

You know, I'm not saying Sven handled this situation correctly or sensitively, but what did Faye expect?

She sleeps with a man with an admitted reputation as a womanizer.  She is very clear that she does not consider it to be a relationship.  She tells him not to sleep with other women and he says straight to her 'That's not ok'.  She continues to sleep with him.  What exactly did she expect?  If Sven agreed to be exclusive it'd be one thing, but he was very clear that was not the case.

Heck, Faye calls to ask him out on a date, he says 'No thanks, but wanna fuck?'  And she comes over.  She either really loves conflict, or is a walking geyser of cognitive dissonance.

[tragic banjo]

Man, Steve's hair has gotten pretty wild.

[Golani]

Interesting, this never happens to me, being from the same part of the south as faye. Earlier today, some woman did nearly the exact same thing, except when buying groceries. Meh.

I think that Faye won't be "jailed" for anything, as cussing outloud in a public space isn't illegal (except directly at an officer or with a combined threat), however her embarassment will only serve to piss her off more at Sven.

[Lulaloli]

Interesting, this never happens to me, being from the same part of the south as faye. Earlier today, some woman did nearly the exact same thing, except when buying groceries. Meh.

I think that Faye won't be "jailed" for anything, as cussing outloud in a public space isn't illegal (except directly at an officer or with a combined threat), however her embarassment will only serve to piss her off more at Sven.

Actually, she could get arrested for disturbing the peace if anyone calls her out on it.
I really don't think Jeph would throw that in there though.

[Guido Sarducci]

...

This is Jeph we're talking about. he's not above it. 

You can't picture faye in a jail cell, when Martin and Dora walk in to bai lher out, find out why she's there, and Dora gets to cussin and ends up sitting next to  Faye?

[bunnyThor]

that's ridiculous

Yeeeeah, bunnyThor, I'm definitely in agreement with Shaztastic on this one.

Wow.

That post was actually taken seriously?  

Obviously, I have my hyperbole threshold set far too low for this forum.

I don't think it's really in dispute that no one is responsible for Sven's dumbassery except Sven.

[ironi]

lol BunnyThor.  Sexual Harassment of the mentally ill   

[Mallli_kite]

Wow.

That post was actually taken seriously?  

Obviously, I have my hyperbole threshold set far too low for this forum.

I don't think it's really in dispute that no one is responsible for Sven's dumbassery except Sven.

Irony has a tough time around here, too.  You did say severe squinting was necessary.

Blamethrowing is popular, and easy, but rarely accurate.

[haikupoet]

This would be a good time for Penny to spring for pizza. Dora looks about ready to kill.

[Tybalt]

nice.

[ModernRonin]

This would be a good time for Penny to spring for pizza. Dora looks about ready to kill.

No way, she's still too shocked to have thoughts of murder. But give her 2 minutes...

Honestly? I feel bad for Penny. What was that quote?

"Being right too soon is socially unacceptable." -Robert A. Heinlein

[TheReaper]

Dear god, Dora's look in that last panel.
That stare could kill a man where he stood, inside of his massive tank.
Poor Penny.

[kryptocow]

The expressions in the last panel are GOLD.

*amused at the juxtaposition between Dora's LAZER EYES face and the LOL poster*

[Shadic]

Ah, I've come close to saying stuff almost that bad before.

Luckily, I was able to stop myself before I made an ass out of myself.

Edit: Also, missing dialog arrow for Dora in panel 2.

[innermoppet]

Poor Faye. Sometimes we think we can be logical and detached and wear our big girl Underroos but we just CAN'T. There's a streak of stubborn optimism in Faye. Part of her knew she was going to get burned but part of her thought "maybe... just maybe..." This is what happens when our heart collides with our head. It's a dizzying collision that leaves you nauseated and covered in bloody bandages. I don't really think she ever thought of Sven as a temporary thing. I think she genuinely liked him. I think he genuinely liked her but he's just not any good at controlling his impulses. Sad.

I liked Dora's death eyes in that last panel. If I were Penny I'd have wet myself a little.

Oh and is it me or is everyone's hair shorter in this comic? Dora and Penny both seem to have gotten haircuts.

[Rusty]

What made this one great was the LOLing liberty at the end in the awkward moment

[Kelamin]

Dora's lazer eyes are AWESOME, one of the many reasons i read this awesome comic.

Also, bonus points to Penny for saying what needed to be said. She's right, no one should be suprised by this, Sven is a asshole and while i'd like to believe him capable of change, i don't think he's capable of cold turkey change like that. It's like asking a nuclear explosion to NOT spew out tons of radiation. Not going to happen.

[kjohnnytarr]

Penny doesn't know anything about relationships.

[mrwonderr]

Dora's face is awesome.

As with Faye's.

But Dora's is much better hahahaha.

[sieckanddestroy]

What relationship, kjohnnytarr?  Faye/Sven?  Not in one, as far as we know.

[kgbisouttogetme]

i know that look. pure rage. it made me pee my pants a little just seeing it.

[hack]

Dora's face is awesome.

yah, dora has this very subtle "i will kill you and i will get away with it because they will never find your body"-glare going on.

[sporky800]

Bluh, that was pretty mean of Penny.  Part of a friend's job is to support you when you're sad and upset.  Faye KNOWS she should have known better than to sleep with Sven.  She doesn't need Penny to tell her again, she needs a friend to vent to.

[Guido Sarducci]

I never found that to be true at all. My good friends tell me when I am being an idiot. And when it's done they make sure I recognize that while they love me, I'm an idiot.

[Shok Xone Studios]

Foot consumption protocol complete. Good work, Agent Gaines.

[Shawn]

I never found that to be true at all. My good friends tell me when I am being an idiot. And when it's done they make sure I recognize that while they love me, I'm an idiot.

It's true. A crappy friend tells you that those new pants "look great!" on you, but a good friends tells you that they look horrible before you walk outside in them. Same with relationships: A crappy friend just tells you that you and so-and-so are "so cute together!," while a good friend points out that she is still hooking up with her ex.

Honest friends > Feel good friends.

[JorickHorn]

Drop-jawed Faye, Please-don't-kill-me Penny, and thin-lipped-I-will-tear-you-into-pieces-and-feed-you-to-your-relatives-in-a-pie Dora are drawn brilliantly.

[Rabdsquirlz]

What made this one great was the LOLing liberty at the end in the awkward moment

truth

[0kamisama]

Poor Penny.

Oh, and it's Dora's turn to clean up the blood this time... fitting, seeing as how it'll be her mess.

[raoullefere]

This strip reminds me once again why I like Dora. That being said, it might be easier to be angry at Penelope if we didn't remember Faye snickering at  Wil just before the expresso machine blew up.

Say, I wonder if god (or maybe Buddha, since Penelope did say it was karma) will make the expresso blow up on Penny now? Dora really would kill her then. That thing's new.

Warning - while you were reading 3 new replies have been posted, each one much better than yours. Surrender now. Resistance is futle futale pointless.

[Jeff7]

I immediately thought of Cmdr Data when Penelope said that. Mr/Ms State the Obvious won't always win friends easily.

[roxy255]

Oh, I hope to hell not.  First, I've already lived that (well, sans the Pterodactyl) and it is some major boring shit and second, she's already done that, why run repeats?  I'm voting for a little development, some smidgen of personal growth, maybe even a touch of maturing.  Hey, it happens occasionally.

She's a good Suthern gal -- she has the grace to look appalled at her own public actions. 

*sigh*  I'm gonna go watch a bunch of old romance movies where everything has a happy ending.  I love fantasy.

yes yes yes!! i agree with all of the above.

Also- i read dora's awesome expression as more of a silent communication for penny to shut the fuck up this is not the time or place rather than an angry death threat.

 

[714]

i'm not kidding when i say i think jeph could've made a great psychologist

AHHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA NO

i'm glad you're so amused. :p



you know i've never been a fan of penny and this does nothing to endear me to her...not b/c im faye superfan but bc penny just seems pretentious and im not fond of pretentious folk.

dora with martin=annoying only b/c she's so insecure .... dora otherwise=pretty cool

i'm still wondering whats new with sven haha


side note: not to beat the topic to death, but i just said something very similar to the whole i thought i was a big girl thing faye said a little while ago.....i still don't understand why normally rational people (ie myself) do dumb things like that :p

[Kugai]

Ahhh!  Dora has the Janeway Force 10 Death Glare down pat.

Now all she has to do is get Faye a Bat'leth and the circle will be complete!!



Jeeze Penny, great way to put yer foot right in it!!

[Dagdason]

P-P-P-P-P-PWNT!

[cgarci21]

Yay for consoling Dora!! I was worried she'd go ballistic on Sven and not give Faye a chance to vent.

As for Penny, granted my real friends tell me when I'm being stupid but they do it before I fall down. They don't kick me when I'm already on the floor. They pick me up (likr Dora's attempting) and let me come to my own conclusions. Faye already knows she shouldn't have become emotionally involved without being actually involved (insofar as a commited relationship). Poor Pen-Pen should have kept her trap shut.

In the words of my mom, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't let the person you're talking about hear it."

[sophle]

yeah...dora DID warn faye ahead of time. now that faye knows she fucked up, a good friends says "poor baby" not "i told you so." honesty and sympathy can go hand in hand, and there is a difference between being honest and being bitchy (which isn't what pen is doing, she was just being an idiot).

[Mominator]

I too must express my admiration for Dora's Death Glare (tm).  That is the best, funniest expression I have ever seen in this comic, bar none!  Mad props to Jeph!

[MegaLexi]

I have seen this look before. This look precedes only one thing, and that is slasher film-esque murder using either bare hands or improvised objects. The sort of slow, torture-porn murder one would find in Saw or Hostel. The kind that makes you rethink having eaten that big plate of spaghetti before sitting down to watch the movie. Penelope has achieved a new level of fucked. Dora's fists are probably clenched so hard right now that her SHOULDERS will pop, nevermind her knuckles and everything in between. I fear for Sven, too. Asshole that he is, he doesn't deserve to have the cap of his skull made in to the top of a spiffy hat.

[Mad Cat]

Well, it's confirmed conclusively, Dora does not, in fact, have laser beam eyes. We know this with metaphysical certainty because Penny's head is still intact, no energy beam having punched into her face, and out the back of her cranium.

[MegaLexi]

Well, it's confirmed conclusively, Dora does not, in fact, have laser beam eyes. We know this with metaphysical certainty because Penny's head is still intact, no energy beam having punched into her face, and out the back of her cranium.

It may be something more like minigun eyes. Takes a minute for them to spin up.