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Women imagined in advertising => Gender, sex and society
Eris:
Andy, it was an extreme example to make a point. I know it is awful, hence why it is on photoshopdisasters. My point still stands.
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: sandysmilinstrange on 28 Feb 2009, 19:29 ---It seems like if these ads are rocking people to the core of their self-esteem, it's kind of shaky to start off with.
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That's not the point, though. The point is that the universal dissemination of these images creates an apparent norm for for people to grow up with, and this manipulates and distorts their view of themselves and of their position in society. Some people are lucky enough to get an effective counter to this in their upbringing, but many others are not.
DonInKansas:
"For every beautiful woman out there, there's a man that's tired of fucking her."
This idea may be broad and sweeping, but it does have a good idea behind it I think. Physical attraction is all well and good and may sell some clothes, but there's gotta be more to it. Personally I think that everyone should be required to see how much photoshopping/editing goes into these pictures. Education is the only way to put a dent in this crap.
tania:
to be fair though, liefeld is a really ridiculously bad artist in general.
Gurkburk:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 01 Mar 2009, 00:21 ---
--- Quote from: sandysmilinstrange on 28 Feb 2009, 19:29 ---It seems like if these ads are rocking people to the core of their self-esteem, it's kind of shaky to start off with.
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That's not the point, though. The point is that the universal dissemination of these images creates an apparent norm for for people to grow up with, and this manipulates and distorts their view of themselves and of their position in society. Some people are lucky enough to get an effective counter to this in their upbringing, but many others are not.
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It seems to me you're forgetting the fact there are a lot of sources of information out there and every day people growing up gets exposed to all of them, both the good ones and the bad ones. What I'm saying is I'm sure there are a bunch of chubby kids show hosts out there and that kids will get exposed to all kinds of people in their day to day life. You can't say they shouldn't be shown pretty people just because that would hurt their self-esteem, that is just being overly protective. Granted, you do make a good point that the follies of advertising should be taught in schools, I think this is just a case of the educational system being slightly behind the technical revolutions that have been happening the last 20 or so years and it's just a matter of catching up.
That said complaining about ridiculous body images in comic books that are clearly works of fiction is just plain fucking ridiculous. To be honest that goes for this whole discussion really, I'm a tender 20 years of age and I've been aware for at least the last 6 years that commercials are not an accurate depiction of real life, in fact I consider them as much fiction as a comic book or hollywood movie. It seems to me the reason people are upset with them are because their exposed to them "involuntarily" which I can only imagine being true in perhaps 5% (a number pulled out of my ass) of the cases or so.
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