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clockworkjames:
Of course.

est:
I don't think there are any circumstances at all that warrant the reaction/actions that the cop in question did.  So what she was lippy.  So what she called you fat.  A bloo bloo bloo, you're a fucking police officer.  Dry your fucking eyes and get back to your job, which is protecting lippy little teenagers from the actual bad guys in a professional and respectful manner.  If this guy doesn't know that an unfortunate part of his job entails taking shit from people with patience and a firm but polite "Ma'am, I'm gonna have to ask you again to (etc etc)" then he doesn't have the right temperament for the job.

KvP:

--- Quote from: DonInKansas on 04 Mar 2009, 17:10 ---No, we have a blurb at the top of a one sided interview with the girl and nothing involving the context or a statement from the others involved.

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Man it's pretty fucking difficult to call that video "out of context".

Alex C:
Yeah, I'd call that a bit of a stretch here. I mean, she's standing there with her arms crossed and is within the confines of the cell when he charges back in and proceeds to take her down before adding in a few parting shots for good measure. The whole thing strikes me as rather blatant.

Honestly, I'm not really a pacifism at all costs kind of guy. For example, I get why the officer who shot Nathan Gale at that Damage Plan concert acted as he did. I mean, it was regrettable, particularly considering that Gale was a paranoid schizophrenic, but considering he had already killed few people and was in the process of firing into a crowd, I'm willing to accept it as sad but appropriate. There's really no way I could bring myself to reasonably argue that the officer second guessing himself would have resulted in less deaths. So, yeah, there's probably all sorts of hypothetical scenarios and stories someone could come up with where I could be convinced that it's OK to manhandle or even shoot someone in a given scenario. But unfortunately for Deputy Asshole here, I don't see how that has much bearing on this particular situation.

Guido Sarducci:

--- Quote from: Radical AC on 04 Mar 2009, 15:17 ---After being involved in TWO fatal shootings that cop should have had a desk job, if not after the first one.  His days of interacting with the public should have been over long before this.
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Now I understand what you mean, but try and understand that there are a lot of variables that go into why a cop might shoot more than one person. I had a friend in Baton Rouge who had shot six or seven (can't remember) people over the years. He worked the roughest part of BR, and he had served 28 years. Not once did he ever joke about it, or say anything but that he did everything he could think of to avoid it but he wasn't going to die or let someone else die because some asshole couldn't control himself. We didn't talk a whole lot about it--which led me to believe he, like me, felt remorse over what he'd done. If you are doing a dangerous job, in dangerous places, you are likely to find yourself in danger. And that sometimes mean you have to shoot people. Most cops never have to shoot anyone. But for some reason the cops who do, often do so more than once. There are a number of theories about why this happens. It seems to be related to willingness to shoot rather than actual enjoyment. And proximity to violent criminals makes a difference as well. Less police shootings in Beverly Hills than Compton sort of thing.

Not all cops are bad guys. Not all bad guys are cops. There is the potential for both when you give someone legal authority and a gun. But most cops are doing it because they want to help people. Anyway, I just thought I would put my two bits in about proper response to a cop's shooting people. By federal law they are required to be pulled from the street until an investigation into the shooting is complete. He was back out on the street, leading me to believe that at least a police commission (and sometimes a grand jury) had cleared him of wrongdoing. It's not like he had a license to kill ,you know?



--- Quote from: est on 04 Mar 2009, 17:59 ---A bloo bloo bloo, you're a fucking police officer.
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my nose is bleeding I laughed so hard... :-o

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