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est:
Man, you totally took my words and turned them around.  I wouldn't touch AMD shit right now.  775 form-factor and the chipsets that support it is/are superior in basically every way right now.  "775 isn't going anywhere" means that it will be around for a while yet, not that it is dead.  They are still releasing both dual and quad core cpus for it.

clockworkjames:
+1 to that,

AMD ain't done squat worth buying since the architecture of the 754 athlon chips which was all groundbreaking and shit, then intel shat all over it with multiple core processors which continue to drop bombs on anything AMD have made in a similar price range.

Reed:
Intel is pretty much done releasing new C2Q and C2D's. The new CPUs that are coming out now are just overclocked or reduced TDP versions of existing chips. They are getting ready to release the i5, which is intended to replace the entire mid range market. While AMD certainly has a lot of catching up to do, the Phenom II is actually a very compelling product for its price bracket.

The point I've been trying to make is stop telling this guy to build what you would want to build and think about what will suit him best. He was considering getting a studio hybrid or a mac mini, so while he's probably computer literate and capable of building his own pc he's probably not an enthusiast, and he most likely doesn't have interest in OCing his computer (please correct me if I'm wrong). When I gave him the example build I built him a computer that's cheap right now, powerful enough for his needs, and will not be legacy tech in the next couple years. AMD is sticking with AM3 for the next few years. Once Intel releases i5 they are more or less done with the C2 line. He also wanted something smaller than a standard ATX desktop, and I really prefer the available AMD mATX motherboards to Intel's.

Alex C:
Mild OCing is dead easy with modern BIOSes and Core 2s are easily cool and robust enough to take some modest overclocking in stride, so I wouldn't go dismissing the idea out of hand. Honestly though, I would just look around and make my decision based largely on rebates and warranties available. The problem with paying for a clear upgrade path is sometimes you find out that things have changed enough to warrant taking a different route down the road regardless of prior investments. I had a clear AMD upgrade path available when the Core 2 hit the market... and I ended up buying a Core 2 anyway, a decision I haven't had much reason to regret. Early '07 was not a good time for AMD, after all. Times change so quickly that I would really only bank on the Phenom II if you don't have to pay much of a premium for it to begin with.

clockworkjames:
Even at stock, last time I checked intel's lga775 chips were kicking the snot out of similarly priced am2 chips.

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