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Do you know someone who "likes something ironically"?
Caspian:
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--- Quote from: fish across face on 03 May 2009, 23:36 ---Do they say they listen to some artist because they're so bad it's funny?
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Pretty much this. The faux-ironic "love" of shitty things is one of the great cultural diseases of early 21st-century Western society.
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Yes, absolutely. Up there with screamo crunk as the low point in our culture.
rynne:
--- Quote from: iamiam on 04 May 2009, 12:41 ---I like lots of terrible horribly awful stuff, whether it is clothing or music or childish cartoons. I do not like any of it ironically, I just like it. I am confident enough in myself that I do not really care what other people think of my tastes.
People who like things "ironically" are just pansies who do not want to admit to having guilty pleasures. Actually, even the world "guilty pleasure" bothers me. Why be guilty about your pleasures?
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Bingo. Sometimes something that is qualitatively terrible can be tremendously fascinating. Plan 9 from Outer Space, for example---completely inept film, but I'd rather watch it than a dozen competently put-together rom-coms, because its very ineptness means that it's more surprising than a by-the-numbers movie. I like music/films/art/whatever that show me things I haven't seen before, and sometimes that newness comes out of an absolute failure to achieve anything resembling competence or good taste.
If you like something, you should be able to express what makes you *enjoy* it in a rational manner. Not "I like it ironically" or "It's so bad it's good." Something about it *positively* appeals to you, and if you can't cop to it then you're not being true to your own taste.
ALoveSupreme:
--- Quote from: rynne on 06 May 2009, 09:25 ---sometimes that newness comes out of an absolute failure to achieve anything resembling competence or good taste.
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I completely agree with this sentiment although I think media that is viewed in this way should be given a different aesthetic to comparison than "good taste" or "competence." If something draws you as a result of its failure in the mainstream sense then it shouldn't even be compared in the same way.
Serious is cool now, which is why I started watching professional wrestling again.
Nuance:
I'll admit it, I enjoy Radiohead ironically.
Skibas_clavicle:
I know this is gonna sound weird, but I still am not sure what liking something ironically means. Maybe I'm bad at being a hipster douche, but I still don't get it...If you like something that's cheesy, isn't that you just recognizing it has some sort of pop appeal? Someone explain this to me in a way that hasn't been spouted before...and try to remember who I am.
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