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rynne:

--- Quote from: Alex C on 16 Jun 2009, 08:17 ---Up! stayed away from that and was a far more evocative movie for it; they really nailed the "Show, don't tell" maxim

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Exactly, I think you said what I was aiming for better than I did.

I was thinking that in most family movies, that part of the story would've been more clunky and explicit, either because the writers didn't have enough craft to do it well (I can't imagine Russell's family life being explained any more poignantly than his simple, "Phyllis isn't my mom") or because they thought kids wouldn't understand if a character didn't literally speak his feelings.

0bsessions:

--- Quote from: Ozymandias on 16 Jun 2009, 07:08 ---If a kid is incapable of shutting up during the movie, don't take them to the movie?

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While I'd normally agree with this in the instance of anything above a PG rating, I think you're way off base in this situation. Adult Pixar fans are starting to get the same kind of elitist attitude that adult video game fans have developed. A kind of justification that since adults can enjoy it too, everything should be targeted directly at them since they have all the money, usually at the expense of children (As exhibited in the constant bitching about Nintendo's all ages mentality). The fact of the matter is that this is a clear and obvious kids movie that's beautifully made in a manner that the parents won't be ripping their hair out if they take their kid to see it (Much as they would were they forced to drag their kid out to the Hannah Montana movie).

Kids talk. Kids talk a lot. People who can't deal with kids spouting pointless crap during a movie shouldn't be going to see kids' movies. It's like going to France and bitching about all the people who don't speak English.

Instead of people bitching about kids shitting up their experience, they should be thankful that Pixar even goes out of their way to make sure adults will enjoy it too.

Alex C:
Nah, fuck kids.

0bsessions:
As a disclaimer, I will say that people shouldn't take kids to more teen to adult oriented movies if they can't shut up. A kid yelling "OMG PUPPY!" during something like Up isn't going to kill the experience, but a screaming baby at Incredible Hulk and some kid yelling every time something happened in X2 were annoying.

In terms of the Hulk experience, though, I'll concede that crying babies should be removed from theaters ASAP. I don't give a shit if you want to see the movie, if your kid is screaming their lungs out, they're clearly not enjoying the flick and you're ruining the other kids' experience.

Alex C:
I'm mostly joking anyway; the only time I really got upset over kids being in a theater was when I ended up with half of an ice cold soda tossed on me as two children behind me started a screaming match. Of course, the real key point there is parenting, particularly since the movie in question was 300 and neither of those kids could have been older than 7. I bet once the film was over that family went to Blockbuster and rented Deliverance and Silence of the Lambs in order to bag the bad parenting hat trick.

Anyway, whenever I want to see a Pixar movie with a minimum of screaming I just shoot for a weekday matinee or a late show near the end of the film's run (only really applicable in the 'burbs or small towns). If you're really unlucky you might end up sharing the theater with an entire class of school children, but it'll be practically empty just as often. It'd be nice to be able to get a perfect experience every time, but going to a kids movie on opening weekend and expecting silence is roughly as likely as successfully telling the tide to pack that shit in.

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