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Michael Jackson Died, Guys
KvP:
I'm not sure how much of a threat Joe Jackson will pose to his grandchildren, if they can convince him that he can't make money off of them.
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: KvP on 29 Jun 2009, 10:25 ---
--- Quote ---It is also possible that he did little or no harm, but that harm has been created or increased by outside observers telling children they've been harmed.
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The studies I have (and linked to) put that scenario at about 1% of all reported cases.
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Fair enough - if they're reporting about the actual scenario I described. You see,
--- Quote ---This is all quite similar in spirit to the slut-shaming that usually happens when rape is reported, since crimes cannot possibly occur to "disreputable" people. We would rather be safe in belittling possible victims than presume to discredit the reputation of possible offenders.
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this is not what I was musing about. I was not thinking about the victims being unreliable reporters, but about the investigators interpreting what they hear in a way that suits their agenda and feeding that back into their treatment of the victim; that may be much harder to find figures on. I have seen this happen (in a different scenario), in a judgement made by no less a figure than Dame Butler-Sloss that turned out to be sadly wrong - but that is anecdotal, and so inadmissable.
KvP:
I wouldn't think that would happen very often, at least here. The measures implemented to safeguard the rights of the accused make the burden of proof with regard to sex crimes pretty extraordinary. A prosecutor who decides to go after a high-profile defendant is gambling. The vast majority of them regret it. Unambitious prosecutors tend to avoid cases that aren't 100% ironclad.
Johnny C:
if they tend to avoid cases that aren't 100% ironclad then why did they go after him in 2005
Johnny C:
also i mean i kind of hate to say this but when you are talking about one of the richest most famous most well-known dudes in pop culture you basically have to readjust literally everything to consider the implications of what that means, unfortunately this means you can't approach it the way you'd approach almost literally every other case
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