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Michael Jackson Died, Guys
David_Dovey:
--- Quote from: Patrick on 26 Jun 2009, 19:36 ---Yeah, that's fair. I swear to god though, if in 3 days the name "Michael Jackson" still appears in 8 of the 10 most-read articles on every news site ever, I'm gonna cut a bitch.
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Happy 3 days later, dude.
Yeah yeah blah blah but guys, Thriller. It is the perfect pop album. Every song on there is at least top 5 single material. EVERY. SONG. That's unbelievable.
KvP:
--- Quote from: Johnny C on 30 Jun 2009, 01:15 ---if they tend to avoid cases that aren't 100% ironclad then why did they go after him in 2005
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Note the word "unambitious".
--- Quote from: Johnny C on 30 Jun 2009, 01:20 ---also i mean i kind of hate to say this but when you are talking about one of the richest most famous most well-known dudes in pop culture you basically have to readjust literally everything to consider the implications of what that means, unfortunately this means you can't approach it the way you'd approach almost literally every other case
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I don't agree. You can replace "one of the richest most famous most well-known dudes in pop culture" with "the captain of the Varsity football team" or "the biggest mattress dealer in the tri-state area" or "a police officer" and the implication is the same - that this has to be about collecting money at the expense of a successful and respected man's reputation as well as the community at large's investment in that man (thus making the accusation a threat to all of us, not just the defendant), that a person's power and wealth is a good indicator of how we should view their capacity for committing crime, and that people who claim sexual abuse are so often the sort of people that would lie about it that we should be automatically suspect (and since conclusive proof is so rare, you're effectively advocating for disbelief by default). It plays into the idea that sex abusers have to be a certain type of person - poor, uneducated, possibly a minority, someone who wouldn't be targeted by gold-digging "sex abuse victims". In those cases we can be more sure, those are the only people we can be certain do these things. How much higher than that 1% do you think these false accusations corroborated by victim statements will go in relation to ever-more rich defendants? 5%? 25%? 50%?
If we're talking about factors that would play into false accusations, I would say that it was his open and unselfconscious interest in and affection for children that would have made them more likely, since his wealth and status were not exceptional, in America if not the world. Someone really really really really really should have prevented MJ from letting children reside in his residence unsupervised, in any case. The parents should have refused (I can't remember, did he pay them a stipend for the stays?) but more importantly Jackson should never had been allowed to fulfill his sad desires, for his safety or for the safety of his guests.
Zingoleb:
--- Quote from: David_Dovey on 30 Jun 2009, 06:06 ---Thriller. It is the perfect pop album. Every song on there is at least top 5 single material. EVERY. SONG. That's unbelievable.
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I'll take Rumours, thank you.
Patrick:
--- Quote from: David_Dovey on 30 Jun 2009, 06:06 ---
--- Quote from: Patrick on 26 Jun 2009, 19:36 ---Yeah, that's fair. I swear to god though, if in 3 days the name "Michael Jackson" still appears in 8 of the 10 most-read articles on every news site ever, I'm gonna cut a bitch.
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Happy 3 days later, dude.
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At least I warned everybody.
OKAY NEWS PEOPLE, HE IS FUCKING DEAD, HE AIN'T GONNA GET ANY DEADER, OR ANY LESS DEAD, SO MAYBE I THINK WE SHOULD LET HIS CORPSE COOL THE FUCK OFF OR SOMETHING.
Continue your discussion on the note that "Thriller" wasn't 100% Top 5 material, I mean shit I can hardly listen to 'Pretty Young Thing' (oh god please don't make a joke you guys).
Jace:
I actually really enjoy PYT.
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