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Yo Jeph:
QuarterFire:
--- Quote from: GenericName on 07 Jul 2009, 20:13 ---Khar your point about Hergé is a little moot because as you can see, the only acceptable style of drawing is realistic. Tintin's hair? Not very realistic. Obviously Hergé did something wrong.
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Stop acting sarcastic and smug, because Hergé's style wasn't MEANT to be realistic, whereas Jeph's obviously is.
You cannot have a slice of life comic and have it not be realistic, that's just stupid and it doesn't fit.
Lazer:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 07 Jul 2009, 20:00 ---stuff
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I am aware there could be multiple light sources. point is there isn't a clearly defined one in jeph's drawing. it's all kinda wherever the place.
I am aware my redlines aren't perfect, they were done in moments but the main things fixed were squished necks, the head is indeed smaller, arms corrected, and shoulders/body broadened. I still have a long way to go on anatomy myself. point is is that jeph's characters just look awkward most of the time.
moreover, "Ligne claire" should obviously only be used by people who are really, really good. otherwise what you're drawing will have no focus and look like ten piles of ass dick.
--- Quote from: GenericName on 07 Jul 2009, 20:13 ---Khar your point about Hergé is a little moot because as you can see, the only acceptable style of drawing is realistic. Tintin's hair? Not very realistic. Obviously Hergé did something wrong.
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you can't stylize efficiently until you learn the basics.
again, you're just picking me apart because I am critiquing your warrior-god jeph. I've brought up legitimate problems and you're defending him with excuses. you know who else did that? John Romero. daikatana was not good, but back then he claimed he "made it that way on purpose."
you are all turning it into a case of "I'm right and you're wrong" instead of "hey jeph can improve in a lot of ways, yes?" knock it off.
GenericName:
--- Quote from: Lazer on 07 Jul 2009, 20:51 ---you can't stylize efficiently until you learn the basics.
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You do have a point there, in that Jeph's proportions can be off (Although your corrections are not necessarily correct), but I remember he has acknowledged that in the past. He has taken classes, I believe, and improved. In fact, there was someone on the SomethingAwful forums (I think it was there?) who did redline drawings of Jeph's comics a year or two ago who said similar things to you, except I think she was a professional or something (she also critiqued other artists too and supposedly worked for Disney a long time ago if I am remembering correctly). Essentially similar comments and drawings were made, as well as similar responses (except the thick lines issue didn't come up because, well, that's style)
EDIT: I remembered it was actually a blog or something, not the SA forums.
Basically my point is you really aren't saying anything Jeph hasn't heard already and either dismissed as unimportant to him, or is attempting to work on. You can keep on trying, but I'm willing to bet quite a lot that anything you try and say will either have already been brought to his attention, or be subjective.
Lazer:
want to know what I wish?
I wish he didn't update nightly. I wish he updated monday, wednesday and friday. then what time he would normally spend to work on a comic per night, he can spend into one comic every two or three days. the extra time spent on it would really show through in my opinion.
that'd be rad.
est:
Dude, I'm pretty sure Khar doesn't even read the comic anymore. It was linked in chat and he disagreed with your opinions.
No-one is saying that Jeph's art is perfect, it's just that your suggestions were not good ones.
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