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Yo Jeph:
Surgoshan:
--- Quote from: Lazer on 07 Jul 2009, 19:18 ---you'll note that basically the heads are FAR too large for the bodies. stylized or not, it makes them all look too tall and too thin. people have well defined hips and shoulders! if he wants to move quick and stylize, the easiest thing to do is to just EMPHASIZE these things instead of meshing them into the overall body. Jeph also needs to be more conscious of perspective, lighting and pose wise. Here angus wil is in an impossible position (not to mention he looks like marten), but if his head is set lower and his shoulders set back, it just looks like he's leant over a table or whatever while sitting. a little dynamism in poses goes a long way. now that I reconsider, penny's right arm should be dropped and her hip out to the left. it'd be dynamic AND sexy, which is what jeph is ever going for by putting characters in underwear. which just btw it really seems like he loves fanservice lately. also something jeph can start doing is using variable line width: thicker lines for things that are close in the foreground or need emphasis (faces, for example), and using thinner lines on things in the background. speaking of backgrounds, using muted colors in the background will put larger emphasis on the characters in the foreground, causing them to pop out more and be more dynamic. try to use a muted base color and a muted shade, and somewhere in between the shading and base tones, throw in a more saturated color to give the colors some pop. it's a very basic way to do it but it's quick and works well. high contrast between lights and shadows is a great way to make things stand out, but that's something that you have to get a feel for through studies and can't really be considered a "pointer" as much as a "to-do."
so as you can see I clearly know what I'm talking about, because I've been doing model and color studies for a long, long time. god forbid I be 18. but I guess you're sitting too high on your high horse to let your warrior-god jeph take criticism and must find ways to pick me apart until only the vultures are left to desecrate my body.
and just to finalize the point that I know what i'm talking about and you're all being cocks, here is a quick speedpaint I once did that I still really like.
edit: sorry. I just want to see jeph improve as an artist. he's been kinda stuck at a certain level of skill for a long time and it doesn't seem like anyone but himself calls him out. it's a little flustering.
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Yeah... I'ma call bullshit on this one.
1) Jeph is drawing not a real life study but a cartoon. In point of fact, it is deliberately cartoonish. Go ahead and do a study on any cartoon you care to name, the character's heads are big. It's always been a part of the comic that it wasn't realistic, but a specific style. It's a cartoon, slice-of-life, romantic comedy comic srip.
2) The hip thing. Specifically, this hip thing.
--- Quote ---penny's right arm should be dropped and her hip out to the left. it'd be dynamic AND sexy,
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You're thinking models. Specifically, underwear models. Specifically, women paid to stand in very uncomfortable positions so that it looks "dynamic AND sexy", whereas Penny is a normal woman who is probably a little tired and a touch sore and not so inclined to strike an awkward pose.
Ironic, given that, unlike other comics out there, Jeph's drawing style isn't hyper-realistic. He's actually put her in a fairly normal pose. What a douche.
3) I stand by my statements that you're 18. And therefor approached this all the wrong way. Buck up; we were all there and we all (well, Khar and me not so much) turned out okay. Just learn from situations like this that you don't actually know as much as you think you do and when you think you have something to say is the best time to shut up.
Lazer:
--- Quote from: Lazer on 07 Jul 2009, 20:51 --- I've brought up legitimate problems and you're defending him with excuses. you know who else did that? John Romero. daikatana was not good, but back then he claimed he "made it that way on purpose."
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brotip: if he's going to fanservice his characters around in their undies, they should look sexy.
Khar has given legitimate, respectable responses and humbled me a fair bit. you're just talking out of your anus and harping on the fact you're older than me. good work!
Zingoleb:
Jeph? Fanservice?
What?
If that was the case he'd have put out a Hantai makeout session to appease half of these goddamn forumites.
Tyler:
I think Lazer is right.
Here is a quick speedpaint I did to illustrate his point:
Eris:
wow Tyler, I just did a quick speedpaint as well!
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